I think we can all guess who these players are. I'd bet my house Gabby, Richards, Guzan, Bacuna are involved as the absolute oxygen stealing c***s. And I fucking hate them for it. Disgraceful people.
So after listening to Remi's interview where he is saying that certain first team players aren't putting in the effort and commitment this makes interesting watching http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35658357 Daniel Sturridge: 'Biggest disrespect' to question Liverpool commitment. Looking at the Sturridge interview where he looks clearly upset does this mean Remi has lost certain players in the dressing room? Will have lost them permanently following todays comments? They think that without any backing in Jan (and Remi's comments regarding the future) that he is a dead man walking and therefore they'll out last him anyway? Would dropping certain players and playing the kids make it worse?
Quote from: Pat McMahon on February 25, 2016, 12:34:18 AMQuote from: paul_e on February 24, 2016, 06:51:44 PMQuote from: supertom on February 24, 2016, 06:36:50 PMUnder O Neill we didn't suffer too much from injuries. We were also a fit side. Now of course we died on our ass in March, because he only used 14-15 players with any regularity, over the course of a season (watch Leicester in March-April) but still, up until the burnout (which even to the fittest bunch of players you could have, would be inevitable the way O Neill ran them), we lasted the distance in games and played at a high tempo. Since O Neill left we've been cluster-fucked by injuries. We've been hampered with dire fitness in which, throughout the entire seasons, we've been outfought and outrun and outlasted by the vast majority of our opponents. We've spent 5 years playing like the wheezy kid at school who has to take a 10 minute break half way round an 400 metre lap run. Our fitness levels still aren't good enough. Our injury record is a joke. I've no idea what our fitness team or medical team are doing. Whatever it is, it's not nearly warranting what they're getting paid. I completely disagree. We had some fit players (Milner and Young were the main ones but Gabby at that point would run all day as well) but as a squad I don't think we were at all. We played a sit deep and counter style which is good if you have 2-3 attacking players like that and it masks how unfit the squad is. John Terry made the state of squad quite clear by outright stating that their plan was to get to an hour safely and then watch us hit a wall. That happened a fair few times under mon and not always in March.Did Terry say this after Gabby scored his last minute goal against Chelsea in September 2007 or after our injury time penalty equaliser on Boxing Day a few months later? I can think of plenty of late goals under MON ( I haven't even whispered the Goodison goal in case Legion is still awake, though strangely my own favourite was Zat Knight's v Arsenal) but very few since. Terry was just being a twat, which is fair enough as you should always stick to your strengths. Terry was being a twat, he can't help it, but him being a twat and a couple of examples of late goals doesn't stop it from being true that they we often looked shit for the last 15-20 minutes under mon, if we were in the lead you just knew we'd withdraw deeper and deeper and part of that is a lack of fitness. If we were chasing the game the examples where we did very little to push for a win are far more common than the examples of us pulling it off, the thing is you remember an injury time winner much better than you remember a game that went flat and we we lost/drew with a whimper.
Quote from: paul_e on February 24, 2016, 06:51:44 PMQuote from: supertom on February 24, 2016, 06:36:50 PMUnder O Neill we didn't suffer too much from injuries. We were also a fit side. Now of course we died on our ass in March, because he only used 14-15 players with any regularity, over the course of a season (watch Leicester in March-April) but still, up until the burnout (which even to the fittest bunch of players you could have, would be inevitable the way O Neill ran them), we lasted the distance in games and played at a high tempo. Since O Neill left we've been cluster-fucked by injuries. We've been hampered with dire fitness in which, throughout the entire seasons, we've been outfought and outrun and outlasted by the vast majority of our opponents. We've spent 5 years playing like the wheezy kid at school who has to take a 10 minute break half way round an 400 metre lap run. Our fitness levels still aren't good enough. Our injury record is a joke. I've no idea what our fitness team or medical team are doing. Whatever it is, it's not nearly warranting what they're getting paid. I completely disagree. We had some fit players (Milner and Young were the main ones but Gabby at that point would run all day as well) but as a squad I don't think we were at all. We played a sit deep and counter style which is good if you have 2-3 attacking players like that and it masks how unfit the squad is. John Terry made the state of squad quite clear by outright stating that their plan was to get to an hour safely and then watch us hit a wall. That happened a fair few times under mon and not always in March.Did Terry say this after Gabby scored his last minute goal against Chelsea in September 2007 or after our injury time penalty equaliser on Boxing Day a few months later? I can think of plenty of late goals under MON ( I haven't even whispered the Goodison goal in case Legion is still awake, though strangely my own favourite was Zat Knight's v Arsenal) but very few since. Terry was just being a twat, which is fair enough as you should always stick to your strengths.
Quote from: supertom on February 24, 2016, 06:36:50 PMUnder O Neill we didn't suffer too much from injuries. We were also a fit side. Now of course we died on our ass in March, because he only used 14-15 players with any regularity, over the course of a season (watch Leicester in March-April) but still, up until the burnout (which even to the fittest bunch of players you could have, would be inevitable the way O Neill ran them), we lasted the distance in games and played at a high tempo. Since O Neill left we've been cluster-fucked by injuries. We've been hampered with dire fitness in which, throughout the entire seasons, we've been outfought and outrun and outlasted by the vast majority of our opponents. We've spent 5 years playing like the wheezy kid at school who has to take a 10 minute break half way round an 400 metre lap run. Our fitness levels still aren't good enough. Our injury record is a joke. I've no idea what our fitness team or medical team are doing. Whatever it is, it's not nearly warranting what they're getting paid. I completely disagree. We had some fit players (Milner and Young were the main ones but Gabby at that point would run all day as well) but as a squad I don't think we were at all. We played a sit deep and counter style which is good if you have 2-3 attacking players like that and it masks how unfit the squad is. John Terry made the state of squad quite clear by outright stating that their plan was to get to an hour safely and then watch us hit a wall. That happened a fair few times under mon and not always in March.
Under O Neill we didn't suffer too much from injuries. We were also a fit side. Now of course we died on our ass in March, because he only used 14-15 players with any regularity, over the course of a season (watch Leicester in March-April) but still, up until the burnout (which even to the fittest bunch of players you could have, would be inevitable the way O Neill ran them), we lasted the distance in games and played at a high tempo. Since O Neill left we've been cluster-fucked by injuries. We've been hampered with dire fitness in which, throughout the entire seasons, we've been outfought and outrun and outlasted by the vast majority of our opponents. We've spent 5 years playing like the wheezy kid at school who has to take a 10 minute break half way round an 400 metre lap run. Our fitness levels still aren't good enough. Our injury record is a joke. I've no idea what our fitness team or medical team are doing. Whatever it is, it's not nearly warranting what they're getting paid.
Like most of us I suspect that something happened in the run up to the Valentine's Day massacre. When we had just started to play a little bit like a team a grenade was tossed into the dressing room. I can only think that it was the return of Gabby and it being construed by the malingerers as Remi having to cave in and player power ruled once again. One I feel sorry for is Westwood because he is just not very good, and the same applies to Richardson but Gabby, Guzan, Richards, Lescott and Bacuna are the anti French, anti Garde hard core and probably see another shameful game as a game nearer settling old scores.When we lost to Norwich I was absolutely convinced Bacuna's trademark grin was nothing to do with nerves and everything to do with not giving a shit whether we won or lost.
Quote from: Axl Rose on February 25, 2016, 12:20:35 PMI think we can all guess who these players are. I'd bet my house Gabby, Richards, Guzan, Bacuna are involved as the absolute oxygen stealing c***s. And I fucking hate them for it. Disgraceful people.Bacuna http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villas-leandro-bacuna-hauled-10949598
I firmly believe that, if Garde was to commit his future to us for next season, fans would support him in dropping those he's referring to and playing whoever shows the desire and passion that we, the manager and the club deserves. The useless bastards aren't good enough to take the piss out of the club as they are doing right now.
Quote from: David_Nab on February 25, 2016, 02:13:45 PMQuote from: Axl Rose on February 25, 2016, 12:20:35 PMI think we can all guess who these players are. I'd bet my house Gabby, Richards, Guzan, Bacuna are involved as the absolute oxygen stealing c***s. And I fucking hate them for it. Disgraceful people.Bacuna http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villas-leandro-bacuna-hauled-10949598Including a picture of him smiling with Benteke straight after the 6-0. Prick.
Wow - that's pretty powerful from Garde - what a toxic bunch of w@"Łers we appear to have assembled. I'd love him to be given the mandate to sort it out over the summer but can't help feel he will be off and do a great job for someone else. Worst fear has to be that he ends up at the Bitters to replace Pulis.
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