Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[Pete3206]

I wouldn't worry about that, it's not going to happen.

[Toronto Villa]

My biggest worry is Mourinho will get the ManU job and we'll get Giggs. I could imagine Lerner wetting himself with excitement if that happened. He'd probably turn up for a game. Let's face it, Lerner is a closet Man U fan from his appointing TSM on Ferguson's word to the hilarious OGS pursuit.

Yes I'm shitting it too. Where the hell do you dream all this stuff up?

[sickbeggar]

he's deffo a mancophile. Probably dreams of being one of the Glazers

[saunders_heroes]

My biggest worry is Mourinho will get the ManU job and we'll get Giggs. I could imagine Lerner wetting himself with excitement if that happened. He'd probably turn up for a game. Let's face it, Lerner is a closet Man U fan from his appointing TSM on Ferguson's word to the hilarious OGS pursuit.

Yes I'm shitting it too. Where the hell do you dream all this stuff up?

I bet there were plenty of Villa Fans who thought the same when it was suggested our illustrious owner would contemplate employing the man famed for playing excruciating football and had just relegated Small Heath a few short weeks earlier.

[ChicagoLion]

My biggest worry is Mourinho will get the ManU job and we'll get Giggs. I could imagine Lerner wetting himself with excitement if that happened. He'd probably turn up for a game. Let's face it, Lerner is a closet Man U fan from his appointing TSM on Ferguson's word to the hilarious OGS pursuit.

Yes I'm shitting it too. Where the hell do you dream all this stuff up?

I bet there were plenty of Villa Fans who thought the same when it was suggested our illustrious owner would contemplate employing the man famed for playing excruciating football and had just relegated Small Heath a few short weeks earlier.

I have to admit, that I thought it was a massive wind up at the time.

[paul_e]

so the solution to fix a problem that started by sticking with Lambert for far too long is to employ a guy with a similar record to Lambert?

Oh and for the record I can't think of a worse criteria for appointing a new manager for next season (which I really don't think we should do) than 'he knows the league'.  That's exactly the sort of cliched nonsense we need to get away from.


EDIT - Just to add to this I find it hilarious that you used that phrase and then a page later name dropped 3 successful managers who all had no prior experience of the league when they joined the clubs that they had that success with.

[ChicagoLion]

The similarity to the Houlier reign when some of the senior players were acting like twats and there was obvious disharmony in the dressing room.
I think it was Mcalister that dealt with the discipline issues. I think this is another reason that we should keep Garde because he is the one person that knows where the problems are and who needs to be moved on.

[Villa in Denmark]

Just because others have a different view point doesn't mean their not listening to reason.
When I see my manager standing like a book end for 90 minutes, without showing a glimpse of emotion when were getting battered, I may get a tad pissed off.

Maybe listen to a reasonable argument would have been a better phrase.
Andy's Amfy's point about the general direction of our points tally going in the right direction, be that rolling 6 game totals, rolling 3 game average or whatever is correct.

It doesn't alter the fact that it's too little too late and last Sunday hurts like hell. But it's still a reasonable considered point of view that jars a little compared to everything to do with the club and the team is irredeemably shit and the whole thing should be burned to the ground before we start again.

No one's saying that there isn't a hell of a lot wrong, but we have to keep the most promising / least shit bits as a starting point. If there's one thing I'd say guaranteed a further relegation, it would be bringing in a new manager at the same time as turning over 10-15 players against the general backdrop of the club as it is.

I'd definitely put Garde in the most promising pile. That he's managed to get any level of performance out of that squad, and before Sunday started to get them looking like they gave at least half a fuck was miraculous compared to the last 3 or 4 games under Nice but Tim.

[ChicagoLion]

Agree VID and one of the frustrating things when we bought Garde in was that he had to go through the process of playing players and combinations that had not worked previously.
He did eventually work it out and got improvement out of a limited squad.
There is no point in us going through that process again.
Give him backing to shape the squad and a full season. Anything else would be madness in my view.

[ozzjim]

I think he needs to get us up to 30 ish points this season for him to be able to say he has done a reasonable job and deserve the chance to rebuilt it. At the moment that is a long way off. I think that Hollis will wield the axe this summer above Garde, and he will walk away. Hopefully there is then some sort of sensible footballing structure with decent people who know what they are doing put in place.

[Villa in Denmark]

I think the structure is probably OK. It appears that some of the individuals aren't.

[Steve67]

I think the structure is probably OK. It appears that some of the individuals aren't.

I agree. Put the right people in the right places. Unfortunately, we have no one on the board to recognise the right people though and have relied on idiots for too long. Hence the need for a football brain on the board.

[Risso]

I think he'll go this summer.  The one thing Lerner doesn't like is dissent, and Garde will have insulted his ridiculous pride.

[Legion]

According to Elaine, Garde is a yes-man.

[aj2k77]

Lerner doesn't like his pride insulted? He's taken one of the great institutions of football and turned them in to a laughing stock. If he had any pride he'd drop the price to something realistic £50/60m and be gone.