Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[thegreatdane]

Fair point! They got into it, let them prove something or work to at least salvage some pride!

Nothing annoys me more than the distant relationship between the club and the fans!

Got Pompey written all over it

[Steve R]

Ta Dave.

Garde must take some responsibility too. Not to blame in terms of the players he has, but he does need to motivate and organize the team.

From what I have seen so far, Garde has motivated and organised the team. They look a whole lot fitter too. Maybe yesterday was more about reverting to type than anything. The team really is that crap, it's the two wins and two draws in five that preceded it that were an illusion and had us all fooled.

Maybe Garde should get the credit for the previous run of games rather than the brickbats for what happened on Sunday. To get that bad takes years of earnest incompetence wandering in the wrong direction, something which we have been doing in spades. It isn't going to change overnight and it isn't going to change without a few serious kicks in the teeth.

[Steve67]

Ever since DOL called sugarbags and fickle we seem to take it lying down. The club is a complete laughing stock. What can we as fans do to voice our complete disgust at the way things are? It's embarrassing.

[pbavfckuwait]

He seems very conservative in his approach to the media and to the game itself, we have a major striker problem and surely one of the ways out of it, or at least attempt it, is to encourage your midfield players to get in there and support whoever is our lump up front, 0-0's are no good to us and I get the impression he sends the team out not to concede first and foremost. The time for a cautious approach has well gone.

[OzVilla]

But he doesn't have the players and when we had the chance to change things we were the only PL club to sign no one.

In the scheme of things Remi Garde is the least to blame for our current plight.  But as this cowardly board have hung him out to dry post Jan window I'm certain he'll walk come seasons end. And who could really blame him, he owes them nothing.

[PaulWinch again]

He seems very conservative in his approach to the media and to the game itself, we have a major striker problem and surely one of the ways out of it, or at least attempt it, is to encourage your midfield players to get in there and support whoever is our lump up front, 0-0's are no good to us and I get the impression he sends the team out not to concede first and foremost. The time for a cautious approach has well gone.

Given we just lost 6-0 at home, and are essentially already relegated, I'm not sure throwing caution to the wind is really going to result in anything other than some more batterings.

[pbavfckuwait]

Paul, but then the manager has allowed the board to fulfill his future in January when they would not back him, I feel we are at the point when some (God I dont believe I am typing this), Sherwood bluff and blagging is required, we have gone, let us go with a bit of a fanfare, not a dull whimper.

[olaftab]

Personally, I wouldn't let the kids anywhere near this car crash. Let the overpaid prima donnas make fools of themselves for the rest of the season to the derision of all around.

If they put in a good performance where they show some fight and pride then great. If they don't they can get slaughtered.

It's a sure way to ruin our promising kids bringing them into a hopeless useless team.  Leave it till next season.

[olaftab]

None of our lads made Garth Crook's Team of the Week. I've checked. You're welcome. 

Thanks for that. Typical BBC bias.

[django]

Ta Dave.

Garde must take some responsibility too. Not to blame in terms of the players he has, but he does need to motivate and organize the team.

From what I have seen so far, Garde has motivated and organised the team. They look a whole lot fitter too. Maybe yesterday was more about reverting to type than anything. The team really is that crap, it's the two wins and two draws in five that preceded it that were an illusion and had us all fooled.

Maybe Garde should get the credit for the previous run of games rather than the brickbats for what happened on Sunday. To get that bad takes years of earnest incompetence wandering in the wrong direction, something which we have been doing in spades. It isn't going to change overnight and it isn't going to change without a few serious kicks in the teeth.

I think he has got quite a lot of credit really. I'm not slating the guy, there have been some modest improvements over recent weeks, but also I think he's got quite an easy ride because frankly I think the support hasn't got it in them to be angry at another manager, and everyone knows that the real issue is at boardroom level. He carries himself in a dignified way, not like Sherwood who was all about self preservation, Remi has real class. But in the same way so did McLeish and Lambert. I just think things are so bleak at the moment that we as supporters are looking for any positives we can and talking them up, so Remi being polite and us not being as abject for a few games, beating a fellow relegation candidate or keeping a clean sheet and we grasp it as signs of a recovery.

Remi has been hung out to dry in the transfer window, but it's essentially an extension of the same process that Lambert had to deal with when replacing quality players with mis-shapes and broken-biscuits from Crewe, Gronigen and Poznan.

Garde took over with two thirds of the season remaining and 5 points from safety, and a squad full of shit players some of whom have had 5 years of shit results to undermine their confidence. Take someone like Bacuna who has been less than average for all his career, but is getting worse and worse, there's almost no chance that he could score one of those free kicks these days, all confidence has been drained from them. Players like Richards and Lescott who've won things when surrounded by winners, aren't the sort of people to make others winners.

I think with that scenario, that squad and the lack of recruitment it was an incredibly tough job for Garde to keep us up and it's another huge reason he's been cut some slack, but isn't instilling some confidence a big part of what a manager does? I am really reluctant to give Sherwood any credit but that is essentially what he did when he came in at the end of last season. I know we had Benteke and Delph but there hasn't been much evidence of Garde instilling confidence into the team really, or us doing basic things particularly well, or consistently, or us creating lots of chances, or any players particularly looking like they've improved under him.

Like Bacuna et al I think he's damaged goods now whether it's his fault or not. We are going to be stuck with most of these players  in the Championship, particularly the ones we want to be rid of most. I'm not sure Garde is going to be able to change their mentality sufficiently to get us up and I'm sadly pretty sure he's not going to get the funds for what we really require which is a completely new squad of players, preferably made up of people who have the muscle memory of what its like to win football matches.

[David_Nab]

Ta Dave.

Garde must take some responsibility too. Not to blame in terms of the players he has, but he does need to motivate and organize the team.

From what I have seen so far, Garde has motivated and organised the team. They look a whole lot fitter too. Maybe yesterday was more about reverting to type than anything. The team really is that crap, it's the two wins and two draws in five that preceded it that were an illusion and had us all fooled.

Maybe Garde should get the credit for the previous run of games rather than the brickbats for what happened on Sunday. To get that bad takes years of earnest incompetence wandering in the wrong direction, something which we have been doing in spades. It isn't going to change overnight and it isn't going to change without a few serious kicks in the teeth.

I think he has got quite a lot of credit really. I'm not slating the guy, there have been some modest improvements over recent weeks, but also I think he's got quite an easy ride because frankly I think the support hasn't got it in them to be angry at another manager, and everyone knows that the real issue is at boardroom level. He carries himself in a dignified way, not like Sherwood who was all about self preservation, Remi has real class. But in the same way so did McLeish and Lambert. I just think things are so bleak at the moment that we as supporters are looking for any positives we can and talking them up, so Remi being polite and us not being as abject for a few games, beating a fellow relegation candidate or keeping a clean sheet and we grasp it as signs of a recovery.

Remi has been hung out to dry in the transfer window, but it's essentially an extension of the same process that Lambert had to deal with when replacing quality players with mis-shapes and broken-biscuits from Crewe, Gronigen and Poznan.

Garde took over with two thirds of the season remaining and 5 points from safety, and a squad full of shit players some of whom have had 5 years of shit results to undermine their confidence. Take someone like Bacuna who has been less than average for all his career, but is getting worse and worse, there's almost no chance that he could score one of those free kicks these days, all confidence has been drained from them. Players like Richards and Lescott who've won things when surrounded by winners, aren't the sort of people to make others winners.

I think with that scenario, that squad and the lack of recruitment it was an incredibly tough job for Garde to keep us up and it's another huge reason he's been cut some slack, but isn't instilling some confidence a big part of what a manager does? I am really reluctant to give Sherwood any credit but that is essentially what he did when he came in at the end of last season. I know we had Benteke and Delph but there hasn't been much evidence of Garde instilling confidence into the team really, or us doing basic things particularly well, or consistently, or us creating lots of chances, or any players particularly looking like they've improved under him.

Like Bacuna et al I think he's damaged goods now whether it's his fault or not. We are going to be stuck with most of these players  in the Championship, particularly the ones we want to be rid of most. I'm not sure Garde is going to be able to change their mentality sufficiently to get us up and I'm sadly pretty sure he's not going to get the funds for what we really require which is a completely new squad of players, preferably made up of people who have the muscle memory of what its like to win football matches.

Sherwood has a prem experianced MF in Cleverly / Delph for the most part Vlaar and most importantly goals in Benteke.The lack of goals is a major issue , yesterday was rubbish no doubt worse than rubbish in fact but overall we have not been tonked and had we had someone to score some of the draws would of been wins and moral would improve.

As you touch upon with Bacuna the players are shot of confidence. Players like Bacuna and Westwood for example have spent their entire time here fighting relegation 3/4 years of it will take it out of them.Bacuna looks poor but Collymores social media comments on him going on holiday etc have made him a boo boy target meanwhile Collymore is defending Lescott for his tweet yesterday and Richards for his overall performance ..

Lets also rememeber that Sunderland with experienced Alladyce are only a few points ahead of us and 3 of them came on Saturday boosted with 13mil worth of signings.

We needed new players not just for the effect on the pitch technically and physically but for the moral boost it would give the rest.Yesterdays game was a mirror image of the boards transfer dealings not enough effort and just giving up in the end.

[django]

I wasn't trying to compare Sherwoods job with Garde's really, I think Garde's task when he took the job was harder than Sherwood's which was harder than Lambert's which was harder than Macleish's and so on all the way back to O'Neil. Just because Garde's job was so hard doesn't mean he's done well though.

I think Garde's been fucked over by the people above him and the players beneath him, but it doesn't really matter now. What we need next season is someone to come in and make the players believe that they'e been mismanaged, that they were actually brilliant players all along, lions led by donkeys etc and instill the belief in them that they can get out of the championship at the right end. It will be bullshit because they are responsible and the championship is probably the right level for most of them and too high a level for some of the others, but someone needs to make them believe the bullshit.

I've no idea who that manager is, or even if he exists, but he's the guy we need, and I don't see how it can be Remi now.

[ez]

The last 2 transfer windows have been a disaster for us. If Remi is still with us at the end of the season i reckon he will want a mass clearout of players and quite a few new arrivals of his own choosing. I just hope the club lets him do it.

[ozzjim]

It's what we need.  The whole lot need to be got shut of and someone trusted to build a new side completely

[themossman]

FFS he has one striker at his disposal, who is SHIT and FAT and scored one in 4 when he was fit as a bloody racing snake. And he went off.
 
The squad is talentless, thick, gutless, work shy and they all hate each other.

Guardiola couldn't do much in this Lord of the flies esque batshit crazy basket case set up.