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Author Topic: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa  (Read 943042 times)

Online paul_e

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4425 on: February 10, 2016, 04:49:47 PM »
there are 2 problems with that as I see it

The very planning that you endorse is the exact thing that causes some people to rant on and on about a lack of investment because of a poor net spend. It's completely misleading and ignores all good sense, proper financial management of a football club should focus around maximising your players (assets in this regard) to keep the value of the squad as high as possible.  If the right way to do that is to accept a big offer for a player and then spend the income but nothing more than that's ok.

The 2nd issue is the deprecating value of those assets based on fixed contracts.  To go with your analogy imagine you get those 3 strikers and then 1 of them is a complete flop but his value is constantly going down so by the time you give up on him you can only get a striker worth a 3rd of what you originally spent, that means your whole squad is worth less.  Have 2-3 players all do that at once and you're pretty much fucked without throwing extra money.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4426 on: February 10, 2016, 04:52:09 PM »
not difficult but complex? how's that work then?

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4427 on: February 10, 2016, 05:05:06 PM »
not difficult but complex? how's that work then?

Easily, give someone a spreadsheet with 10000 cells to fill in with numbers from paper records and it can be a complex task but it's all incredibly simple to do.  Complexity is often gives an illusion of difficulty but as soon as you find a pattern/process it all becomes very easy.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4428 on: February 10, 2016, 05:39:17 PM »
I've had it confirmed that Remi is pissed of with Lerner. Remi says that the owner isn't interested and didn't back him on 2 decent signings he wanted to make in Jan.

He'll walk.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4429 on: February 10, 2016, 06:30:45 PM »
I've had it confirmed that Remi is pissed of with Lerner. Remi says that the owner isn't interested and didn't back him on 2 decent signings he wanted to make in Jan.

He'll walk.

No he isn't. I have that on good authority as well.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4430 on: February 10, 2016, 06:43:00 PM »
I know sod all. I have that on the highest authority.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4431 on: February 10, 2016, 06:45:29 PM »
I've had it confirmed that Ciggies knows sod all. Which is more than I know.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4432 on: February 10, 2016, 07:32:39 PM »
I've had it confirmed that Ciggies knows sod all. Which is more than I know.

I have the authority to confirm that.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4433 on: February 10, 2016, 07:58:47 PM »
I have it confirmed that Remi will tell Lerner he is leaving while they are having a summer stroll around Doug's rose garden..

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4434 on: February 10, 2016, 08:57:07 PM »
One of my post grad students was confirmed in Ely Cathedral. As I walked out I heard a voice from on high and it said "Fuck The Albion"  but nothing about Remi Garde or Randy Lerner.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4435 on: February 10, 2016, 10:47:57 PM »
the problem that I have is that we still don't have a discernible style of play. Maybe it's the lack of quality players or Garde not having his own players in but from game to game we're relying on a spark from somewhere, or a set-piece, to try and win a game. Until we can have a system first, then players playing into that system, and knowing what we are trying to do we'll stay stuck in a rut. I'm also one of those that hope Garde doesn't walk and that's also why I hope the fans get right behind him and give him and the team as much vocal support as is possible.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4436 on: February 10, 2016, 11:52:48 PM »
the problem that I have is that we still don't have a discernible style of play. Maybe it's the lack of quality players or Garde not having his own players in but from game to game we're relying on a spark from somewhere, or a set-piece, to try and win a game. Until we can have a system first, then players playing into that system, and knowing what we are trying to do we'll stay stuck in a rut. I'm also one of those that hope Garde doesn't walk and that's also why I hope the fans get right behind him and give him and the team as much vocal support as is possible.

I disagree, the discernible style of play is that we let the opposition keep the ball in their own half but then we close them quickly once they cross halfway.  That has contributed to an improvement in our goal difference and makes us look more 'in control'.  Then we try to break quickly but the lack of quality up front scuppers that so instead we work the ball around a probe for errors but again the lack of quality up front means we don't get enough intelligent movement where it matters to create gaps.  The players who do make runs and like to get on the ball and commit people (Gil and Ayew) both have a bad habit of dropping too deep when we have the ball so they beat men and create space but do it 40 yards out where it's not hurting teams enough.  When they get the ball around the box is when we look dangerous.

I think a 3-4 (Amavi should be one of them) key players in this team would make a huge difference, fullbacks with real quality delivering the ball into the box or beating their man and a striker who can offer proper movement would help a lot.  Then another Veretout style midfielder who can pick up the ball and find players around the box but who also has the work rate to do the defensive side, I really want Grealish to develop into that player and I think it's the role he should be playing.  What that would do is allow/force Ayew and Gil to stay higher up the field when we attack so they can do more damage.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4437 on: February 11, 2016, 12:49:22 AM »
the problem that I have is that we still don't have a discernible style of play. Maybe it's the lack of quality players or Garde not having his own players in but from game to game we're relying on a spark from somewhere, or a set-piece, to try and win a game. Until we can have a system first, then players playing into that system, and knowing what we are trying to do we'll stay stuck in a rut. I'm also one of those that hope Garde doesn't walk and that's also why I hope the fans get right behind him and give him and the team as much vocal support as is possible.

I disagree, the discernible style of play is that we let the opposition keep the ball in their own half but then we close them quickly once they cross halfway.  That has contributed to an improvement in our goal difference and makes us look more 'in control'.  Then we try to break quickly but the lack of quality up front scuppers that so instead we work the ball around a probe for errors but again the lack of quality up front means we don't get enough intelligent movement where it matters to create gaps.  The players who do make runs and like to get on the ball and commit people (Gil and Ayew) both have a bad habit of dropping too deep when we have the ball so they beat men and create space but do it 40 yards out where it's not hurting teams enough.  When they get the ball around the box is when we look dangerous.

I think a 3-4 (Amavi should be one of them) key players in this team would make a huge difference, fullbacks with real quality delivering the ball into the box or beating their man and a striker who can offer proper movement would help a lot.  Then another Veretout style midfielder who can pick up the ball and find players around the box but who also has the work rate to do the defensive side, I really want Grealish to develop into that player and I think it's the role he should be playing.  What that would do is allow/force Ayew and Gil to stay higher up the field when we attack so they can do more damage.

I agree with that, though I think our style of play is hampered by not having enough quality in the final third.  As you say, we get our full-backs into decent positions but the delivery is poor pretty much every time.  I also agree about a striker who can play off the shoulder of defenders and make runs in behind.  Our movement in the final third has been poor for a number of seasons now. 

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4438 on: February 11, 2016, 05:17:53 AM »
After exhaustive enquires I have it confirmed that Remi is French

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4439 on: February 11, 2016, 07:33:36 AM »
That is all well and good Mr Underwood but I have just pricked out (can I say that?) my radishes in my greenhouse and though the packet says very clearly 'French Breakfast' they come from Eccles and I intend to eat them for my tea.

 


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