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Author Topic: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa  (Read 942265 times)

Offline Chris Smith

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4200 on: February 06, 2016, 11:33:48 AM »
I don't think he'll walk, he's just making sure his hand is stronger come May to pick the five or so incoming players he will need aid in brassing the Championship up.

The last thing the board need or want to be doing is searching for a new manager in May. They've hung him out to dry in January and all parties know that, which gives Garde leverage come transfer time in the summer; back me or I'll walk and you risk hanging around with the Micky Mouse clubs indefinitely.

I hope for once you're right, Ads.

I tend to agree with Ads. I don't think it suits either party for him to walk away. The club are not going to want to start again and Remi has nothing to show for his time here that would make getting another job a formality.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4201 on: February 06, 2016, 11:50:30 AM »
Dyche (of whom I'm a fan) has signed a new deal at Burnley. Purely to increase their compo when we take him in the summer I'm certain (winky thing)

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4202 on: February 06, 2016, 11:51:39 AM »
I don't think he'll walk, he's just making sure his hand is stronger come May to pick the five or so incoming players he will need aid in brassing the Championship up.

The last thing the board need or want to be doing is searching for a new manager in May. They've hung him out to dry in January and all parties know that, which gives Garde leverage come transfer time in the summer; back me or I'll walk and you risk hanging around with the Micky Mouse clubs indefinitely.

I hope for once you're right, Ads.

I tend to agree with Ads. I don't think it suits either party for him to walk away. The club are not going to want to start again and Remi has nothing to show for his time here that would make getting another job a formality.

Agreed, Chris. The club are still going to have to sell him the 'project' for next season and beyond and convince him they'll actually stick to their word.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4203 on: February 06, 2016, 11:58:48 AM »
I agree with all that logic, Ads, Chris, Rudy but, massive generalisation alert, he is French and almost certainly has a Gallic streak of fire under the cool exterior.  I hope I am wrong because I rate him highly I don't want May to be pay pack time for his humiliation.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4204 on: February 06, 2016, 12:02:17 PM »
The article about Debuchy is completely fictitious. Almstadt has absolutely nothing to do with transfers in any shape or form.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4205 on: February 06, 2016, 12:08:55 PM »
The thought has struck me that every lazy jibe hurled our way has been to defend a British manager. St Martin - driven out by the Americans. McLeish - fans never gave him a chance because of where he came from. Sherwood - transfer committee, French players, American CEO. Every one inaccurate, every one accepted as fact because we don't fight our PR corner.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4206 on: February 06, 2016, 12:15:07 PM »
And also painted as if we should be grateful we have managed to capture such mediocrity.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4207 on: February 06, 2016, 12:32:57 PM »
I hate this word 'project' that everyone uses in football these days, rather than plan. A project has an end to it. Aston Villa is here to stay and therefore project does not fit with our future. There are short term plans, medium term plans and long term plans, all linked together.

The end of the season is when we should make those plans. We have missed an opportunity to implement a short term plan with the closing of the transfer window, so we move on.

I am sure the club are considering the two scenarios, staying up or relegation but until it's mathematically certain of relegation they cannot switch the first off. Hence, nobody at the club can commit to a definite plan for the future. This means Remi Garde cannot say categorically that he will be here next season.

The media are telling it one way to create the bigger news and some supporters are accepting it to either suit their mood of depression or to suit their mood of anger of the running of the club.

If I was Remi Garde going into a press conference, I would say "Before taking any questions I am telling you now that I will not answer any questions about my future. If you ask them I will not answer them and, if that was the only reason for you coming today, you may as well leave now".

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4208 on: February 06, 2016, 12:33:31 PM »
If Garde walked away in the summer (or now, even) his stock is still pretty high in France.

I'm sure there would be other clubs on the continent as well as the Gulf States and the Far East who would be interested too.

So I don't think he has to stay, for fear of damage to his future job prospects.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4209 on: February 06, 2016, 12:38:36 PM »

If I was Remi Garde going into a press conference, I would say "Before taking any questions I am telling you now that I will not answer any questions about my future. If you ask them I will not answer them and, if that was the only reason for you coming today, you may as well leave now".

Yes, that would quell the speculation.

Even managers who we've known are for the high jump would generally talk about next season and putting their stamp on the club.

You could say Garde is a straight shooter and doesn't want to enter into all that nonsense, but the knock on effect of that is if he sounds vague about his future he'll continue to be asked about it.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4210 on: February 06, 2016, 01:05:11 PM »
If Garde does walk in May, my fear is that Villa only seem to appoint those who are available (cheap!). Hopefully they grow a pair and piss another club off by approaching a Manager already in situ and doing a decent job at another club.  Er, or we go for Moyes!

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4211 on: February 06, 2016, 01:30:50 PM »
You are completely right Dave.  We never put our side of the circumstances.  We seem obsessed as a club to promote the image of dignified silence which declares open season for anybody to tell whatever lies grab them the most attention.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4212 on: February 06, 2016, 01:37:42 PM »
Makes me laugh when numpties like Redknap and others criticise us for 'going foreign'

Over the last 25 years we have a British/Irish manager in all but 13 months of that time
Including the previous three, which is partly why we are where we are now

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4213 on: February 06, 2016, 02:04:47 PM »
What was the point in appointing Garde if the club weren't going to back him in January?  It's just doesn't make sense and is another example of the lack of foresight and planning that seems to emanate from the club these days. It was clear to everyone that the squad is not up to it, yet they've hung Garde out to dry by not backing him. If they were going to stick with the same players that started the season they may as well of stuck with Sherwood and saved the pay off. I wouldn't blame Remi if he walks out any day now. We are a shambles!

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4214 on: February 06, 2016, 02:15:08 PM »
We have to bear in mind that Kalinic was all but signed but the F.A tucked that up for us and Doumbia chose the bar codes. So Garde was sort of backed. The issue here is that there didn't appear to be alternatives available.

 


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