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Author Topic: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa  (Read 942573 times)

Offline Bully2345

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4110 on: February 03, 2016, 10:32:57 PM »
Sherwood lost nine games on the bounce. Nine!

I remember football365 saying very early that they couldn't say he was a bad manager because they weren't even sure he was a manager at all. They were right

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4111 on: February 03, 2016, 10:40:54 PM »
If Garde goes the board will again think they're being clever and planning for the future by getting Dean Smith from Brentford.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4112 on: February 03, 2016, 10:48:15 PM »
Its all about opinions.  Sherwood  had his  hands tied as well with regards to transfers.  With the players I mentioned in my post before, he had us playing towards the end of last season and apart from the final we had our Villa back.  Forget Southampton and  Burnley games just before the cup final - remember we beat Ipswich 6-1 the week  before they  beat Arsenal  in 78.

So, to paraphrase - if we ignore that, forget about this, don't take into account something else and make up a couple of things then Sherwood's time doesn't look quite so bad? Yes, I'm quite happy to accept that.

Sherwood's not without his skills and talents. I'm sure that there is a call-centre out there cold-calling about missold PPI which could do with a new deputy manager.

In the meantime, even when we do get relegated, at least that mountebank won't be employed by our club again. It's one of the very few positive things to take out of this season.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4113 on: February 03, 2016, 10:50:27 PM »
The worrying thing is that I am starting to think that Lerner believes that nobody is bigger than Randy Lerner.  Nero springs to mind.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4114 on: February 03, 2016, 11:07:19 PM »
Yes, Sherwood was shit, absolutely no doubt.
But Remi hasn't covered himself in glory.

I really can't believe that this squad is SO SHIT, that it is possible for it to win only 2 games so far. I don't think it could have been that bad if we'd actively set out to do that.

Ye, we know Remi has been dealt a shit hand, yes his bosses are wankers, but that should not excuse questions being asked about his abilities and his results.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4115 on: February 03, 2016, 11:12:11 PM »
Its all about opinions.  Sherwood  had his  hands tied as well with regards to transfers.  With the players I mentioned in my post before, he had us playing towards the end of last season and apart from the final we had our Villa back.  Forget Southampton and  Burnley games just before the cup final - remember we beat Ipswich 6-1 the week  before they  beat Arsenal  in 78.

Garde has to date overseen two very bad  4-0 defeats.  I am not saying Garde is such a bad manger but neither was Sherwood.

Oh yes he was.

He didn't gave his hands tied with regards transfers as all his pronouncements at the time were full of praise for who he'd bought in. If was only when it went pear shaped and he'd overseen about 7 straight defeats that he started whining about the transfer committee and throwing the team under the bus.

That's why i dislike that vile gobshite so much - he started throwing everyone he had to under the bus to make himself look good.

Horrible, horrible man.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4116 on: February 03, 2016, 11:15:27 PM »
Yes, Sherwood was shit, absolutely no doubt.
But Remi hasn't covered himself in glory.

I really can't believe that this squad is SO SHIT, that it is possible for it to win only 2 games so far. I don't think it could have been that bad if we'd actively set out to do that.

Ye, we know Remi has been dealt a shit hand, yes his bosses are wankers, but that should not excuse questions being asked about his abilities and his results.

To win games you need goal scorers.  Even if all were fit we would struggle but Garde has been unlucky with injuries in this part of the team.

Offline BC Villain

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4117 on: February 03, 2016, 11:27:19 PM »
It was also Sherwood presumably that chose Gestede as his replacement for Benteke, given that his bitching towards the end was almost exclusively aimed at the players recruited from France.

And merely rubbed all the players up the wrong way to the point where some didn't even want to play for him

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4118 on: February 03, 2016, 11:37:43 PM »
Its all about opinions.  Sherwood  had his  hands tied as well with regards to transfers.  With the players I mentioned in my post before, he had us playing towards the end of last season and apart from the final we had our Villa back.  Forget Southampton and  Burnley games just before the cup final - remember we beat Ipswich 6-1 the week  before they  beat Arsenal  in 78.

Garde has to date overseen two very bad  4-0 defeats.  I am not saying Garde is such a bad manger but neither was Sherwood.

Actually the Southampton defeat was a  big warning sign we ignored ,those last 3 games inc the final we were hopeless , we were poor in preseason and carried on into this season the same way.
In terms of the transfers I can have sympathy that his hands were tied with some players , however the ones he picked Gestede and Richards have been woeful.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4119 on: February 04, 2016, 12:02:22 AM »
Yes, Sherwood was shit, absolutely no doubt.
But Remi hasn't covered himself in glory.

I really can't believe that this squad is SO SHIT, that it is possible for it to win only 2 games so far. I don't think it could have been that bad if we'd actively set out to do that.

Ye, we know Remi has been dealt a shit hand, yes his bosses are wankers, but that should not excuse questions being asked about his abilities and his results.

I can.

Total dilution of the first team squad. Guys like Westwood with all due respect were playing alongside Delph and Benteke last season. Those two have left a massive, massive hole quality wise and we've nowhere near replaced them.

Ok only 2 wins but we've lost some tight games because we haven't got that something special. Lots of hard work at times but no quality.

Also any new manager is at least given the chance to get 1 or 2 in. How can anybody realistically guage a managers performance with somebody elses players.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4120 on: February 04, 2016, 12:16:03 AM »
Sherwood was a poor manager.  But some of you seem to forget that we were nailed on for the Championship that now awaits us when he arrived. He bought us a year, and he spent no money in doing so.

Like Lambert and McLeish before him, and Remi since, he has never fully revealed what went on in those transfer windows.

There is nothing more insidious to a manager's prospects, in any walk of business, than to plan for a business  outcome and be let down on resourcing.



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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4121 on: February 04, 2016, 01:06:03 AM »
The difference between Sherwood and Remi is night and day - one is a two bit chancer who threw everyone under the bus when it suited him, the other has maintained his class despite being treated like a pig by the clueless idiots in the boardroom.

Class gets my vote everyday and when he walks as he surely will, he will go with my very sincere best wishes. It will be a very sad day for AVFC

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4122 on: February 04, 2016, 06:08:14 AM »
Its all about opinions.  Sherwood  had his  hands tied as well with regards to transfers.  With the players I mentioned in my post before, he had us playing towards the end of last season and apart from the final we had our Villa back.  Forget Southampton and  Burnley games just before the cup final - remember we beat Ipswich 6-1 the week  before they  beat Arsenal  in 78.

Garde has to date overseen two very bad  4-0 defeats.  I am not saying Garde is such a bad manger but neither was Sherwood.

Oh yes he was.

He didn't gave his hands tied with regards transfers as all his pronouncements at the time were full of praise for who he'd bought in. If was only when it went pear shaped and he'd overseen about 7 straight defeats that he started whining about the transfer committee and throwing the team under the bus.

That's why i dislike that vile gobshite so much - he started throwing everyone he had to under the bus to make himself look good.

Horrible, horrible man.

He sealed his fate in the post match interview following that Leicester game where he blamed the players and took no responsibility for the substitutions and subsequent formations - that HE lost the game, instead he said the opposite.

That's when he lost the dressing room and the excuses really started to flow, from then on it was just a matter of time.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4123 on: February 04, 2016, 07:42:37 AM »
We're still only 10 points off safety this morning, which makes the January inactivity even more inexplicable.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4124 on: February 04, 2016, 08:05:53 AM »
If you want a yardstick of just how bad a squad Remi Garde inherited and which to the eternal shame of the board he has not been allowed to strengthen, you need look no further than Alan Hutton.  In the early part of his time with us he was regarded as a very limited player to put it mildly.  So much so that Lambert put him in the bomb squad and would not play him.  To his great credit he has rehabilitated himself and won back a starting place, his energy and commitment making up for his shortcomings.

The interesting thing I find is that Hutton has looked better and better not because he is getting better but because the players around him are worse.

Collectively I have never seen a Villa side so weak in so many positions.

 


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