Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[Phil from the upper holte]

Remi Garde 'not happy' as Aston Villa draw Deadline Day blank | Football News | Sky Sports http://teamstre.am/2044MZF

[OzVilla]

Thing is, if we've decided to keep our powder dry for the January window because we're 10 points behind and couldn't attract our top choices then I'm fine with this - but ONLY if Remi Garde has understood and agreed to this policy. 

However, if the Club has pulled the rug from under him and changed strategy WITHOUT Remi's understanding and agreement then I think he'll walk.  In fact taking off my Villa supporters hat, I think he should walk.

Problem is, you could read Garde's comments a number of ways.  And you could read his body language a number of ways. Pissed off yes, but pissed off at what, the general situation? the players who told him they'd come? the players agents who upped the wage demands at the last minute? the Club for not backing him? some of the above? or all of the above?

It easy (too fucking easy with this mob) to immediately believe its incompetence on behalf of the transfer committee and the Board - and McGrath knows they've been culpable in the past.  But let's cool down and not jump to too many conclusions until we've heard another press conference from RG.   

It might be as simple as us making offers for the players he really wanted and none of the fuckers wanted to sign.  So we didn't want to throw money at the 2nd/3rd string options.  You see, I can totally understand that.

Anyway, that's my straw I'm clutching at because if we lost Garde over this - well that just cannot be allowed to happen.  I do know one thing though, we need him more than he needs us right now.

[pbavfckuwait]

I have stated a few times on here that I am still not a 100% convinced on Garde, but what I am convinced about is that he has gone about his role with integrity and honesty and yes there has been shoots of improvement.
Someone wrote , if they have changed what he was promised, well I am sure in November they did not sit down with him and state, the squad you are getting is shite, if you want to make any signings in January forget it, anyone can see we need a forward but sorry Gestede and Kozak are your options till May, make it work or if not use Gabby, he is a fans favorite.

The man has been given the biggest slap in the face I have ever seen, delivered by incompetent people who have a directive from a clueless owner cut, cut , cut.
Remi thank you for your service, whether it is this week or in May a decent human being you deserve better employers than what you have now.

[villabear]

Hollis on 22nd January 2016 - "This is not about spending money. That is not the reason why the club is not doing well. Other things need to be fixed before we go out and spend big money."

What other things? Getting relegated and make us look an absolute laughing stock?

Garde has been hung out to dry by him and Fox et al. As I read earlier and apologies for quoting without crediting them the job he's got now is totally different from the one he was interviewed for.

We know we had a faint hope with this window open but to not do one bit of business is shameful.

Remi seems a genuine dignified and honourable bloke so if as it seems the carpets been pulled from under him who'd blame him if he walked?

[OzVilla]

Far be it for me to defend the numptys but Hollis is right.

"This is not about spending money. That is not the reason why the club is not doing well. Other things need to be fixed before we go out and spend big money." 

It's not so much the money we've spent over the last 5 years that's been the problem, it's the players we've purchased and the managers that we've chosen.  There's plenty out there that have spent less net than we have but are comfortably better than us right now.  It's not the money, it's the people.

[pbavfckuwait]

Oz in alot of ways you are quite right, this is a conclusion of years of miss- management and it could not have come back to bite us at such a bad time.

Reading between the lines, what Garde was asking for looks like 5 mill for the goalie, 8 mill for the guy gone to Sunderland and a loan amount for Debauchy and the man gone to Newcastle with an option to buy so probably spend now of 17 mill plus wages, not a pittance agreed. Would this be enough to change round the season I do not know, but with a difference of 99 mill TV or 34 mill parachute payment, would it have been a calculated risk, I believe so. Some of that could have been clawed back by selling toss pot Richards to Sunderland, lets say cautiously 5 mill, so now we are down to 12 mill plus wages, bringing in 4 losing 1.So 1 mill more than what Boro have spent.

This then allows Garde to start to mould his own team, this has been denied him and I am a 100% certain that was not the terms and conditions he took the post under. Hollis may have had a major effect on that and would not approve that outlay, so as a club they have taken the decision to demotivate the manager, who already has had to deal with dressing room
 rifts, poor attitudes by senior pros and some junior player who thinks he is the bees knees, the clue is in the title of Remis position, Manager,he has started that process but the club will not invest to allow him to continue.

This spiral has only just started, my concern is where it is going to end.

What we have now is a unmotivated manager

[Dante Lavelli]

What has happened is hardly going to galvanise the players either.  On one hand they're regretting not getting some extra bodies to help them out of trouble and on the other the manager has publicly stated that they lack quality. 

I was pretty confident that Garde had got them on track for 30 points this season, however now I fear they could follow the board's example and just give up.

[MattW]

Suggestions?

Above and beyond the obvious 'Remi Garde's claret and blue army', I'll be in the away end tomorrow night trying to get 'Remi Garde my lord' off the ground.

Great idea; let's do it.

This is a great idea. As someone who can't attend the game, I'm grateful for this. Please let us know how it goes

[manic-road]

I wouldn't blame Remi if he walked at the end of the season, he, the team and the fans have been massively let down by the clowns running the club. To stand by and not bring in just one of the players that Remi wanted whilst our relegation rivals strengthened highlights the incompetence of Lerner Fox etc.
Remi hasn't been backed at all which is a disgusting betrayal after they got him in.

[Ron Manager]

When Wenger decides to call it a day I know who their next manager will be...don't you?
And he fully deserves that job!

[Nunkin1965]

Suggestions?

Above and beyond the obvious 'Remi Garde's claret and blue army', I'll be in the away end tomorrow night trying to get 'Remi Garde my lord' off the ground.

Great idea; let's do it.

This is a great idea. As someone who can't attend the game, I'm grateful for this. Please let us know how it goes

Great thing to do btw. For those of us who won't be there we'll be listening out for it.

We should give it a real go on Saturday. I'm only hoping Remi is there to see and hear it.

[cdward]

He's now the favourite to be the next Premier League manager to leave his post.

How the fuck have we got to this?

Start with a dose of recklessness then stir in a dash of panic.
Add a good portion of stupidity and a heaped spoonful of blind hope.
Mix vigorously and blend in a measure of desperation garnished with a clutch of straws.
Finish with a pinch of decency then throw the whole lot on the floor and shit on it from a great height.

Second verse to spoon full of sugar?

A spoonful of Hollis helps the Villa go down

[MattW]

Rarely have I seen such an obviously decent man and potentially good manager for us in time treated so disprespectfully and shabbily in such a short space of time.  The current players aren't blameless in this either especially the usual suspects.

Yes, it's shameful, and these are now very desperate times.

I agree that Hollis seems to be the catalyst for the austerity. The self-confessed not-a-football-man. Sees problem as expenditure, but fails to properly account for the human aspects, in particular the need to support the highly competent manager, who is the club's best hope of escaping the mire. Guys like him always underestimate the value of good employees.

Perhaps it was better the devil you know - Lerner usually did loosen the purse strings at some point and seemed able to be persuaded.

Until Lerner leaves there's no way out because he's too incompetent to employ decent executives so the club will continue to be driven into the ground.

[Phil from the upper holte]

When Wenger decides to call it a day I know who their next manager will be...don't you?
And he fully deserves that job!

Who?

[pauliewalnuts]

Hollis is right, if the question is about the troubles of the last five years, then the answer is not just to spend money.

If the question is how to get out of this mess right now, though, then he's wrong, the answer is to spend money - to strengthen the squad. Anyone who has watched us this season can see what a difference options up front would make.

There's no guarantee that spending money would save us, but not spending any at all guarantees we will go down.

Still, how would you expect someone who is not a football man to understand that? Why would you feel you have to persuade someone like that to take the job and then drop them in to it halfway through the window?

Randy's most damaging weakness is his tendency to make awful appointments. If this mess is Hollis's doing, then he just looks like another poor appointment to me.

This club is going to remain moribund and dysfunctional until the clueless chairman finds a buyer.