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Author Topic: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa  (Read 943253 times)

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3615 on: January 30, 2016, 09:04:01 PM »
Is the one player expected to be Debuchy?

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3616 on: January 30, 2016, 09:05:29 PM »
Interesting facts tweeted by FatMan Brazil this morning, NUFC have spent £3.4M more than 18 Bundesliga sides combined
£2.19m more than all 20 Serie A sides combined, £19.61m more than 20 La Liga sides combined and £23.7m more than all 20 Ligue 1 sides combined. They have also spent £75M since the summer. They are knackered if they down.

Can I ask why they should be? That is a reasonable spend for a premier league club which has tightened budgets for several seasons but now is re investing for the future. They can easily afford it even in the championship assuming they have got relegation cluases in the contracts.


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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3617 on: January 30, 2016, 09:06:57 PM »
A lot thought they were knackered last time they went down. They weren't.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3618 on: January 30, 2016, 10:24:56 PM »
The one player they bought last summer that has covered their ills in the first half of the season is Wijnaldum - he has been exceptional

Mclaren is an awful manager though, with a very strong Derby bottled it last season.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3619 on: January 30, 2016, 10:38:56 PM »
I understand all the shit team, shit transfer window, shit board, shit owner comments on here but Garde is surely not above criticism? And as for him walking in the summer, I'm not sure which club would take him. Today's result was shit.

I'm a fan of Garde. Mostly based on him talking the talk but I can't deny that the results on the whole have been shit and there have been some seriously shambolic performances, today probably the 4th or 5th under him. I honestly don't think he can turn this group of players around, that's why he needs money and a serious overhaul during the summer of the squad.

It should have started now.

Problem is we've given him a 25 piece jigsaw, but 9 of them are the same, 6 or 7 belong to another puzzle, there are no corners, but they come in a lovely box. Until he can dump them and buy his own pieces it'll never fit properly.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3620 on: January 31, 2016, 02:13:23 AM »
I know it will not happen but the club should give it until we are absolutely certain to go down and make a strong statement of what they intend to do in the summer ready for next season.  The fans are getting p***** off with weak comments.  Even if it is something we may not like to hear, at least be honest so that the supporters understand the position.
It was 2 weeks ago that the Chairman and CEO made comments, not sure what more you expect.

A start would be an honest summary of this transfer window.
I think the actions speak pretty loudly, I am not sure they ever would say
1. We have thrown the towel in
2. No one we are interested in wants to join.
 Which I guess is the answer, I understand the frustration though.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3621 on: January 31, 2016, 07:22:09 AM »
Still in the undecided camp as regards Remi, but feel real pity in some ways for what he has inherited, but we all agreed or the majority did that the nucleus of the squad was good enough, it was just Tactics Tim that did not know how to get the best out of them.

I think what we are seeing, one win in all his league games, shows how we over estimated the quality of what we actually had within the squad.

The asset strippers that he now has around him, I believe will be enough to see him wave good bye come June, as I am sure he was promised some support especially in this window, regardless of our position, this for whatever reason has not been forthcoming, or not up to today 31st Jan, he was probably promised a very very fat bonus if he kept us up and I am sure like most managers and ourselves, believed he could get more out of the group than what he has been able to, but was totally unaware of the open sore that runs though every department of Villa park and especially through the playing department and that the sore only needed a plaster, when in fact it needed amputation.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3622 on: January 31, 2016, 07:29:57 AM »
I would hope the reality is that limited funds were and are available, but we have plumbed depths of such  extreme shiteness that players simply do not want to come here.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3623 on: January 31, 2016, 07:56:51 AM »
I can't imagine for one moment that Garde is happy to continue with the same squad for the rest of the season. If nothing else, they need some fresh faces to try and lift aide as it stands the second half will not be much better than the first half of the season.

When the inevitable happens, surely the players would want to start nest season with a bit of belief, not a sense of "oh shit, the season is about to start".


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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3624 on: January 31, 2016, 09:17:01 AM »
What the arrival and presence of Remi Garde has brought about is the long, long overdue reality check at the club. Ever since the purchase of the club by Lerner there has been a culture of short term thinking.  The early days of reckless spending were every bit as bad as the penny pinching that has followed them.  The common denominator of all those seasons and of all the managers prior to Remi Garde has been the flopping from one short term fix to another and each has been as big a failure as its predecessor.  The same can be said of the managers.

I do not know if the bringing in of Remi Garde was a deliberate act to bring about a reality check or whether like so much of recent Villa history it just happened.  I suspect it is the latter because there has been nobody, especially the owner, at the club with the intelligence or the balls to act with such radical foresight.   Planned or not, it has happened.

As Garde himself put it, he arrived in an ambulance.  The club is now on the table in the operating theatre.

Remi Garde inherited nothing of any value.  He got a squad  full of poor, demoralised, unfit, undisciplined players.  He had just lost his two best players.  He could not get his chosen back up to come with him.  He got an owner who wants nothing to do with the club he owns.  The players he did get performed so weakly against Watford, Sunderland and Norwich in key six point games that we were cut adrift and the possibility of better players wanting to come to us in the window evaporated.

So here we are.  All we have is the future.   Nothing else matters.  The choice before us is a stark one.  Do we try to rebuild the team from the very foundations or do we stagger into a future of more of the same?

Money has clearly been limited and behind the PR that is what Hollis is here for, among other things to keep in his place a CEO who uses expressions like "false narrative" and cuts deals involving short lists of one.

In short I cannot think of a worse situation for any manager to find himself in.

Whether he is here by accident or design I don't know or care.  He has to be backed by the owner, the board, his colleagues, the players and the fans.

« Last Edit: January 31, 2016, 09:21:04 AM by brian green »

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3625 on: January 31, 2016, 09:45:19 AM »
But that is what worries me Brian, I do not think he will be backed to the extent he will require and thou it is the club we all love, he has no more than a professional interest through his own career in Aston Villa, if he goes in June it will be a stain on his CV, but a stain that will 99.99999% state "Fucked up in the USA"

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3626 on: January 31, 2016, 09:56:30 AM »
But that is what worries me Brian, I do not think he will be backed to the extent he will require and thou it is the club we all love, he has no more than a professional interest through his own career in Aston Villa, if he goes in June it will be a stain on his CV, but a stain that will 99.99999% state "Fucked up in the USA"

If by 23.00 Monday night the club have still not brought anybody in either on loan or a full transfer you have your answer!

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3627 on: January 31, 2016, 10:03:03 AM »
Credit to Remi for taking the job under those circumstances. No one will hold him responsible for what went before. I didn't agree with him being appointed but see the grace and dignity in which he carries himself. I think he understands the fans anger and does need to be backed. Like others, I have no faith at all in Lerner, Hollis or Fox. Equally, we will not plan properly for the drop, other than to cut costs. There is a difference between cutting costs and planning to get back quickly.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3628 on: January 31, 2016, 10:10:53 AM »
Reading some of the comments he made in interviews after the game, I can see him walking once the season ends.

No doubt the press (who seem desperate for him to fail) will declare him a disaster and blame him for relegation, but what chance has he got? The board clearly won't back him and he's had no help whatsoever.

Offline pbavfckuwait

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3629 on: January 31, 2016, 10:18:32 AM »
The set up at Villa park with the likes of Fox, Lerner and now Hollis have their own inbuilt bull shit detector, to the extent that the bull shit they spread, they have an alarm system that goes off when it is not being believed and I think they are well aware that Garde is nobody's fool, keep the purse strings tight, because as we have done on numerous occasions the wheel will start spinning again come June.

 


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