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Author Topic: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa  (Read 943124 times)

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3390 on: January 24, 2016, 06:23:30 PM »
How about saying posters instead of deadheads which isn't acceptable.

Yes, sorry for that.

Perhaps he thinks you are all Greatful Dead fans.

On the positive side I have learnt that although we are still shit we are 0.35% less shit than under Sherwood.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3391 on: January 24, 2016, 06:25:22 PM »
The reality is that the league table and results don't lie - we have not improved since he arrived

You're right, results don't lie.

Sherwood sacked on Oct 25th: P10 W1 D1 L8 = 4 points = 0.4 points per match

Garde's regime: P12 W1 D6 L5 = 9 points = 0.75 points per match

So, having said yourself that results don't lie, I take it you accept he has improved us given the stats above?
premier league games won

tim = 3 points
remi =3 points

that's a draw

fkn not good enough whichever way you look at it

please lets get a forward who might just give us a glimmer of hope

So draws don't count as points that Garde has got the team to earn? Again your dismissing the statistical evidence. Garde has performed better than Sherwood this season, that is an undeniable, or should be, fact. Now it's probably not going to be enough to save us, but I wouldn't lay much blame at Garde's door for that.
I was trying to lighten the mood sorry
which by saying weve only won twice all season is a bit stupid
I also think we look a better side under remi and have improved
« Last Edit: January 24, 2016, 06:28:46 PM by four fornicholl »

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3392 on: January 24, 2016, 06:27:05 PM »
How about saying posters instead of deadheads which isn't acceptable.

Yes, sorry for that.

Perhaps he thinks you are all Greatful Dead fans.

On the positive side I have learnt that although we are still shit we are 0.35% less shit than under Sherwood.
From the figure quoted I would say Garde is so far 87.5% better than Sherwood.

But it still won't be enough to save us.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3393 on: January 24, 2016, 06:30:07 PM »
Personally, I have no doubt that if Garde had started the season as manager we'd be well away from the drop zone.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3394 on: January 24, 2016, 06:38:57 PM »
The reality is that the league table and results don't lie - we have not improved since he arrived

You're right, results don't lie.

Sherwood sacked on Oct 25th: P10 W1 D1 L8 = 4 points = 0.4 points per match

Garde's regime: P12 W1 D6 L5 = 9 points = 0.75 points per match

So, having said yourself that results don't lie, I take it you accept he has improved us given the stats above?
premier league games won

tim = 3 points
remi =3 points

that's a draw

fkn not good enough whichever way you look at it

please lets get a forward who might just give us a glimmer of hope

So draws don't count as points that Garde has got the team to earn? Again your dismissing the statistical evidence. Garde has performed better than Sherwood this season, that is an undeniable, or should be, fact. Now it's probably not going to be enough to save us, but I wouldn't lay much blame at Garde's door for that.
I was trying to lighten the mood sorry
which by saying weve only won twice all season is a bit stupid
I also think we look a better side under remi and have improved

Ok apologies, just frustration creeping out!

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3395 on: January 24, 2016, 06:59:14 PM »
Results comparison:

Sherwood     WLLDLLLLLL
MacDonald    L
Garde           DLLDLDDLLWDD

The above does not tell the whole story though.  At the start of the season there was the confidence of the new season and winning the first game.  When Garde came in, confidence was rock bottom after 7 straight league defeats.  Turning that around to 3 defeats in the next 7 when trying to get to know the best team was reasonable considering the circumstances.

What has done us are the two defeats at Xmas but he did not have Okore for those two games and Sanchez.  Whatever you say about Sanchez, the team does look stronger with him in it.  If the back four that played yesterday had been available for those two games,  I think we would have got something from them and the picture would look a lot different.

With injuries, Garde has been able to change the RB and RCD which has made us stronger without dropping anybody and upsetting an already fragile dressing room.  One thing that Garde addressed as soon as he could was the left back position.  He knew we had a player that could do a job for him and brought him back from loan which has further settled the defence.

I think what you will see from Garde going forward is that he will not stick with same 11.  I think he will change players if they drop off due to tiredness as he did with Veretout yesterday.

Garde will do for me and I confidently expect him to build a good young side with some experience added for next season.  His squad will be strong so that he can rotate when injuries, loss of form etc. come.  He will not be left with holes in the squad as we have this season and there will be a number of U21 players boosting the size of the 1st team squad.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3396 on: January 24, 2016, 07:10:06 PM »
The stat results are flawed as they only take Sherwoods last 10 games (this season) to prove the point
What was his overall Win percentage ?
maybe that would be a bit better, you can prove anything you want by using and selecting only the worse results in a managers career

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3397 on: January 24, 2016, 07:12:13 PM »
Results comparison:

Sherwood     WLLDLLLLLL
MacDonald    L
Garde           DLLDLDDLLWDD

The above does not tell the whole story though.  At the start of the season there was the confidence of the new season and winning the first game.  When Garde came in, confidence was rock bottom after 7 straight league defeats.  Turning that around to 3 defeats in the next 7 when trying to get to know the best team was reasonable considering the circumstances.

What has done us are the two defeats at Xmas but he did not have Okore for those two games and Sanchez.  Whatever you say about Sanchez, the team does look stronger with him in it.  If the back four that played yesterday had been available for those two games,  I think we would have got something from them and the picture would look a lot different.

With injuries, Garde has been able to change the RB and RCD which has made us stronger without dropping anybody and upsetting an already fragile dressing room.  One thing that Garde addressed as soon as he could was the left back position.  He knew we had a player that could do a job for him and brought him back from loan which has further settled the defence.

I think what you will see from Garde going forward is that he will not stick with same 11.  I think he will change players if they drop off due to tiredness as he did with Veretout yesterday.

Garde will do for me and I confidently expect him to build a good young side with some experience added for next season.  His squad will be strong so that he can rotate when injuries, loss of form etc. come.  He will not be left with holes in the squad as we have this season and there will be a number of U21 players boosting the size of the 1st team squad.

With regards to Sanchez I disagree mate. I think Gana looks more comfortable marshalling the back four. The midfield looks a lot more balanced. And Veretout and dare I say it, Westwood seem to be more comfortable of their roles.
I do think the change in form is due to the re-shuffling of the back four and the midfield.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3398 on: January 24, 2016, 07:14:27 PM »
As well as Bunn instead of Guzan.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3399 on: January 24, 2016, 07:14:38 PM »
Never, ever thought I'd post that.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3400 on: January 24, 2016, 07:17:52 PM »
The stat results are flawed as they only take Sherwoods last 10 games (this season) to prove the point
What was his overall Win percentage ?
maybe that would be a bit better, you can prove anything you want by using and selecting only the worse results in a managers career

Yeah, but then you have to take into account that he had Benteke, Delph, Vlaar and Cleverley. It's only fair to compare this season, as they've both had access to the same squad.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3401 on: January 24, 2016, 07:26:48 PM »
The stat results are flawed as they only take Sherwoods last 10 games (this season) to prove the point
What was his overall Win percentage ?
maybe that would be a bit better, you can prove anything you want by using and selecting only the worse results in a managers career

It wasn't so much the stats that I was pointing out but the state of the side when Garde took over and how he has done since.  Sherwood did well last season to keep us up but it tailed off at the end of the season and as the above poster pointed out, he had better players.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3402 on: January 24, 2016, 07:49:52 PM »
As well as Bunn instead of Guzan.

Nothing special about Bunn but critically he doesn't make stupid mental errors. He'll be the back up next season for that reason alone and Guzan sold.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3403 on: January 24, 2016, 07:55:43 PM »
The stat results are flawed as they only take Sherwoods last 10 games (this season) to prove the point
What was his overall Win percentage ?
maybe that would be a bit better, you can prove anything you want by using and selecting only the worse results in a managers career

It's fair to compare as they had exactly the same squad to work with. You can't compare last season as Garde hasn't had Delph or Benteke in the squad.

It also has to be taken into account that Sherwood had all the new signings to work with when they would, most likely, be full of confidence etc straight after joining us. Garde had to deal with the same players having no confidence, the reported dressing room splits etc.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3404 on: January 24, 2016, 08:09:43 PM »
Results comparison:

Sherwood     WLLDLLLLLL
MacDonald    L
Garde           DLLDLDDLLWDD

The above does not tell the whole story though.  At the start of the season there was the confidence of the new season and winning the first game.  When Garde came in, confidence was rock bottom after 7 straight league defeats.  Turning that around to 3 defeats in the next 7 when trying to get to know the best team was reasonable considering the circumstances.

What has done us are the two defeats at Xmas but he did not have Okore for those two games and Sanchez.  Whatever you say about Sanchez, the team does look stronger with him in it.  If the back four that played yesterday had been available for those two games,  I think we would have got something from them and the picture would look a lot different.

With injuries, Garde has been able to change the RB and RCD which has made us stronger without dropping anybody and upsetting an already fragile dressing room.  One thing that Garde addressed as soon as he could was the left back position.  He knew we had a player that could do a job for him and brought him back from loan which has further settled the defence.

I think what you will see from Garde going forward is that he will not stick with same 11.  I think he will change players if they drop off due to tiredness as he did with Veretout yesterday.

Garde will do for me and I confidently expect him to build a good young side with some experience added for next season.  His squad will be strong so that he can rotate when injuries, loss of form etc. come.  He will not be left with holes in the squad as we have this season and there will be a number of U21 players boosting the size of the 1st team squad.

Good analysis. Agree with most of that.

 


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