Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[Villa in Denmark]

Good move in think really as Black has experience in coaching and can speak French.

I still don't want Garde at the club though.  I maintain he is not suitable for the inevitable rebuild in the Championship.

Black spent 4 or 5 seasons playing for Metz in the late 80's, just as Garde was starting out at Lyon.

I still don't get that you can't see that Garde is slowly turning things around and looks like someone who would actually build the club up on solid foundations.

There's a couple of not too subtle digs at what sort of a dressing room & culture he inherited in the post match interview on the BBC website.
Definitely a a split dressing room and regardless of which side of the divide a lack of fitness.

Those are the first 2 building blocks for everything. Without those you've lost before you get onto the pitch, and guess what? We did. Repeatedly.

Asking anyone to turn around this mess was like pulling a handbrake turn in an oil tanker, and finishing off with of one of those trick parking manoeuvres where the turn ends up as a bit of parallel parking.

Technically and theoretically possible, but night on impossible.

[LTA]

Good move in think really as Black has experience in coaching and can speak French.

I still don't want Garde at the club though.  I maintain he is not suitable for the inevitable rebuild in the Championship.

I reckon he will walk before that, but I am curious, what kind of manager do you reckon would be better for us in the Championship? Honest question, because I dont know.

Someone who knows that level.  Garde has never played or managed in the Championship.  It's far too much of a risk to put promotion into the hands of a rookie.

He HAS to be sacked if we get relegated and replaced with a manager experienced at that level.  We can't afford to take the risk.

[Villa in Denmark]

Genosio is the boss there VID not Baticle I think?

You're quite correct.

It's me that's got confused as to whether Genosio was the incoming or outgoing there.😳

[SheffieldVillain]

Good move in think really as Black has experience in coaching and can speak French.

I still don't want Garde at the club though.  I maintain he is not suitable for the inevitable rebuild in the Championship.

I reckon he will walk before that, but I am curious, what kind of manager do you reckon would be better for us in the Championship? Honest question, because I dont know.

Someone who knows that level.  Garde has never played or managed in the Championship.  It's far too much of a risk to put promotion into the hands of a rookie.

Neither had Aitor Karanka or Carlos Carvalhal. Paul Clement has never had a management job anywhere. They make up 3 out of the top 6 managers in the Championship. What it seems to me increasingly in the Championship is that the good training ground coaches rise to the fore.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

Good move in think really as Black has experience in coaching and can speak French.

I still don't want Garde at the club though.  I maintain he is not suitable for the inevitable rebuild in the Championship.

I reckon he will walk before that, but I am curious, what kind of manager do you reckon would be better for us in the Championship? Honest question, because I dont know.

Someone who knows that level.  Garde has never played or managed in the Championship.  It's far too much of a risk to put promotion into the hands of a rookie.

He HAS to be sacked if we get relegated and replaced with a manager experienced at that level.  We can't afford to take the risk.

Yes, let's bin the first intelligent, thoughtful and progressive manager we've had in years and replace him with Mick McCarthy. Then, when Mick's got us promoted (which he definitely will) we can give him the push (after all, he was hopeless in the top division) and look for an intelligent, thoughtful and progressive manager to take us forward. Absolutely brilliant idea.

[tomd2103]

He has to stay. He'll sort out the striker problem for next season. It's just a real pity we did't get him in sooner. I'm positive with Remi in charge, a decent coach and the board room being properly looked after we're going to bounce back much stronger.

We've ended up in the shit and they all seem to be fully aware of it now and admitting mistakes. The last few weeks have been a massive improvement on all levels. It's not by all means perfect but hopefully everyone is pulling together.

Agree with this.  It has taken Garde a little time, but I think he has now found a formation that works and the players to fit into it.  As a result, it has definitely been better over the past few weeks.  The defence looks better though we are desperately short of quality in the final third, but there isn't much he can do about what he has been given to work with.  I also like the way he seems to be addressing the culture of complacency that has been present at the club for a number of years.  He seems the sort that doesn't take any nonsense and that is what we need.

[pauliewalnuts]

I still don't want Garde at the club though.  I maintain he is not suitable for the inevitable rebuild in the Championship.

On the basis of what?

Him being foreign?

[Risso]

All I wanted to see from Garde is signs of improvement, and we're doing that, at least in defence.  On the defensive front, he's done as well as humanly possible to get even a semi-reasonable defence out of the options available to him, and we've stopped looking like we'll concede every time the other team has the ball.  At the other end of the pitch, he is generally fucked unless the shower of idiots who run the club let him bring a striker in.  Trying to make a defence out of Lescott and Richards et al is hard enough, but when you're reliant for goals on Ayew, Gestede, Kozak, Gabby and Sinclair it really is mission impossible.  Ayew is a decent player but relying on him just isn't the answer to our problems.

[ozzjim]

There are now at least 4 draws under Garde that with a genuine quality striker we would have won. That would put us right in the mix now. He has got the basis of the team right, stopped shipping goal after goal and there is almost a style of play emerging. Problem is Kozak is not good enough buy works hard and Gestede missed to many half chances. Richards and Gestede had headed chances in the second half that you have to at least hit the target with. With a striker moving in front of them Gil and Ayew would also look more effective I am sure.

[adrenachrome]

The fans are behind him now, despite earlier reticence. That is a powerful force. I think he will rebuild the club.

[ChicagoLion]

I agree with OZZ and Riss above. We actually look like something resembling a team. I think even if he had got the job at the beginning of the season this team would struggle but we would at least be in contention. I hope he gets the backing to keep progressing. The best thing to happen to the club in a while.

[ozzjim]

All I wanted to see from Garde is signs of improvement, and we're doing that, at least in defence.  On the defensive front, he's done as well as humanly possible to get even a semi-reasonable defence out of the options available to him, and we've stopped looking like we'll concede every time the other team has the ball.  At the other end of the pitch, he is generally fucked unless the shower of idiots who run the club let him bring a striker in.  Trying to make a defence out of Lescott and Richards et al is hard enough, but when you're reliant for goals on Ayew, Gestede, Kozak, Gabby and Sinclair it really is mission impossible.  Ayew is a decent player but relying on him just isn't the answer to our problems.

And Ayew is clearly suited to being a wide forward or playing off a striker, not the main role. He will get 10 a season, maybe more in a decent team, but you need a forward who can run alongside, make intelligent decisions and score. None of what we have does that. Garde must be beside himself having coached the likes of Lacazette from a kid to watch our lot going forward.

[ciggiesnbeer]

Good move in think really as Black has experience in coaching and can speak French.

I still don't want Garde at the club though.  I maintain he is not suitable for the inevitable rebuild in the Championship.

I reckon he will walk before that, but I am curious, what kind of manager do you reckon would be better for us in the Championship? Honest question, because I dont know.

Someone who knows that level.  Garde has never played or managed in the Championship.  It's far too much of a risk to put promotion into the hands of a rookie.

He HAS to be sacked if we get relegated and replaced with a manager experienced at that level.  We can't afford to take the risk.

Thanks for the answer. Appreciate it.

[pauliewalnuts]

I agree with OZZ and Riss above. We actually look like something resembling a team. I think even if he had got the job at the beginning of the season this team would struggle but we would at least be in contention. I hope he gets the backing to keep progressing. The best thing to happen to the club in a while.

My position exactly.

If we go down, it won't be his fault. I'd rather we started attempting to come back with him in charge, with him settled at the club, and with him getting time to do it his way.

The absolute worst thing we could do would be to sack him and appoint some halfwitted knuckle-head like Pearson, on the spurious basis that he's "best for a struggle". If we did that, I honestly think I'd bow out of giving a shit about football for the rest of my life.

Our "leaders" are hare-brained deluded cretins, but I would hope that even they are not stupid enough to do something like that.

[ChicagoLion]

All I wanted to see from Garde is signs of improvement, and we're doing that, at least in defence.  On the defensive front, he's done as well as humanly possible to get even a semi-reasonable defence out of the options available to him, and we've stopped looking like we'll concede every time the other team has the ball.  At the other end of the pitch, he is generally fucked unless the shower of idiots who run the club let him bring a striker in.  Trying to make a defence out of Lescott and Richards et al is hard enough, but when you're reliant for goals on Ayew, Gestede, Kozak, Gabby and Sinclair it really is mission impossible.  Ayew is a decent player but relying on him just isn't the answer to our problems.

And Ayew is clearly suited to being a wide forward or playing off a striker, not the main role. He will get 10 a season, maybe more in a decent team, but you need a forward who can run alongside, make intelligent decisions and score. None of what we have does that. Garde must be beside himself having coached the likes of Lacazette from a kid to watch our lot going forward.

I still have Ayew down as a prospect with potential, he needs the right coaching and to work out his best position. I do like his attitude though and that is a big part of it.