Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[Flamingo Lane]

Pound for pound, one of the finest pieces of business ever done by a Villa manager was the acquisition of Ray Graydon from Bristol Rovers.  Vic Crowe.

[ozzjim]

Did I detect pure disdain in his voice at the new "hip injury" that Gabby is out with.

[aj2k77]

They have got to get that useless, piss taker out of the club before next season.

[mr underhill]

I agree. a bad egg - fuck the fat fucker right off, now.

[PaulWinch again]

I've seen plenty of us since he arrived.  Enough to know that he is - like most others at the club - not fit for purpose.

You're clearly on a wind up.

Why is he on a wind up? He's won one league game since he took over so you can't expect every fan to think he's the new messiah because of that.

There's a big difference from being the 'messiah', which I don't think anyone has said he is, and being 'not fit for purpose'. We've definitely seen progress in the last few weeks, with what virtually everyone can agree is a very poor squad. I'm not sure what people expect in such a short space of time.

[Pat McMahon]

The thing Joe Mercer and Vic Crowe had in abundance was a quality totally absent in the last five years at Villa Park, the respect of the supporters.   Vic was an iron hard man who would make James Milner look like Charlie N'Zogbia and Joe has the road to the Ethiad named in his memory.  The quality that shone through them both was character.  I believe Remi Garde is cut from the same cloth.

Vic Crowe's commitment to the club and his playing career deserve respect but I don't understand this admiration of him as a manager.
His record entails not avoiding relegation to Div 3,not an easy task but we weren't too far adrift.We finished 4th with a League Cup final and then Champions in Div 3.His high  win ratio is cited but that's in Div 3. Can't really crow about that ! His record in Div 2 is 103 Pts from 100 matches with  2 Pts for a win ,finishing 3rd and then 14th.
His programme notes talked about testing the bath water,Saunders' we're about 110% effort and getting the right result.His supporters would talk about him stabilising the club but we finished 3 Pts behind mighty Halifax and his tenure ended in 14 th place in Division 2 despite an expensively assembled squad and an array of young talent .

Sorry to keep this one going but..

We were flat on our backs when Crowe was appointed. We had the fallout from Edwards/Hole/Ferguson affair to deal with, players like Chico Hamilton and Pat McMahon were bereft of confidence and barely playing. Defeat was following miserable defeat. For 'weren't too far adrift' read 'stinking and sinking, fast'.

In little more than a year we had almost survived the inevitable and were at Wembley outplaying one of the better footballing teams of they day. However, playing other club's cup finals every week took its toll and results tailed off in our first season in div 3.

Rather than remark on the cost of players in the second year - your prices are too high - I would point to the fact that the likes of Nicholl and Ross stepped down divisions to join us. It was hard to believe the quality of player he was bringing to the club. The nurturing of promising youthers like John Gidman and Brian Little was exemplary.

As has been pointed about, if it were not for what Vic Crowe gave the club as a manager, we would never have seen the big days that were to follow after he left the club.

Good post Steve R. I think Vic Crowe turning the ship around and ensuring we didn't sink further was an important springboard for us, in a way that was not too dissimilar to how Graham Taylor turned things around in 1987-88. You could probably argue that any old clown could have got us out of division 3 but Vic Crowe knew the club and our history well enough to grasp what was needed and I don't think it is a coincidence that it was probably the era of the greatest bond between players and supporters.

[SamTheMouse]

I make a point of trying not to judge managers until they've had at least a summer transfer window to shape the squad in their image.

Rémi has done little wrong since arriving. He says the right things, his team selections are generally coherent, when we play poorly it mostly seems to be down to individual mistakes rather than disorganisation or poor tactics, the performances have improved slightly...

There's no guarantee he will lead us to better things, but it would be unfair to pass judgement on him until he has had an opportunity to bring in his preferred coaching staff and is managing his own players, rather than the absolute bag of shit he's inherited.

[not3bad]

I've seen plenty of us since he arrived.  Enough to know that he is - like most others at the club - not fit for purpose.

You're clearly on a wind up.

Why is he on a wind up? He's won one league game since he took over so you can't expect every fan to think he's the new messiah because of that.

I'd agree there's not enough evidence to speak that highly of him.  Equally there is not enough evidence to start using phrases like "not fit for purpose".

[saunders_heroes]

I've seen plenty of us since he arrived.  Enough to know that he is - like most others at the club - not fit for purpose.

You're clearly on a wind up.

Why is he on a wind up? He's won one league game since he took over so you can't expect every fan to think he's the new messiah because of that.

I'd agree there's not enough evidence to speak that highly of him.  Equally there is not enough evidence to start using phrases like "not fit for purpose".

Fair enough, but what is it so far, one win in eleven? Not much of a new manager lift was there?
Don't be surprised if fans haven't been too impressed so far.

[Ian.]

I've seen plenty of us since he arrived.  Enough to know that he is - like most others at the club - not fit for purpose.

You're clearly on a wind up.

Why is he on a wind up? He's won one league game since he took over so you can't expect every fan to think he's the new messiah because of that.

I'd agree there's not enough evidence to speak that highly of him.  Equally there is not enough evidence to start using phrases like "not fit for purpose".

Fair enough, but what is it so far, one win in eleven? Not much of a new manager lift was there?
Don't be surprised if fans haven't been too impressed so far.

To state the other day if Remi does keep us up (which would be an incredible feat) He would still like him sacked was strange though. Maybe that's why it's suggested he's on a wind up?

[bertlambshank]

Did I detect pure disdain in his voice at the new "hip injury" that Gabby is out with.

Yep they are too wide to fit in the shorts.

[Edvard Remberg]

The postmatch from Remi - that is the best (beside the one I just heard from Klopp haha)

[class-of-82]

Agree at least the players are showing some fight and showing that they care
Down to you remi

[Toronto Villa]

I've seen plenty of us since he arrived.  Enough to know that he is - like most others at the club - not fit for purpose.

You're clearly on a wind up.

Why is he on a wind up? He's won one league game since he took over so you can't expect every fan to think he's the new messiah because of that.

There isn't anyone calling him the new Messiah. Nobody at all.

[Yossarian]

I've seen plenty of us since he arrived.  Enough to know that he is - like most others at the club - not fit for purpose.

You're clearly on a wind up.

Why is he on a wind up? He's won one league game since he took over so you can't expect every fan to think he's the new messiah because of that.

There isn't anyone calling him the new Messiah. Nobody at all.

Actually I am. I don't care about his qualities as a football manager, I have seen him turn water into wine, heal the sick and walk on water.