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Author Topic: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa  (Read 943252 times)

Offline Risso

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2880 on: January 11, 2016, 10:16:41 AM »
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“To win games we have to have 11 players playing at 110 per cent and this is not the case at the moment. Every game the opponents are running more than us.”

Can we end the nonsense that it's not the players fault at all, they're trying, they are just shit. When a manager comes out and says the players are playing for themselves and not putting the effort in then you know something is really wrong in the dressing room.

Exactly. When Gestede just stopped running at one point when the ball was crossed in, I actually felt embarrassed for him. They're not putting a shift in, and in the case of that pair of twats Guzan and Lescott, they just don't care.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2881 on: January 11, 2016, 10:17:15 AM »
If Garde was to walk, I reckon it might be for the level of abuse if anything. It's not something he should have to put up with.

If he does walk it will show that he doesn't have the stomach for a fight. Better to establish that now, when we are just playing out a written off season, rather than wait until we're playing in the Championship. Not that I think he will walk.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2882 on: January 11, 2016, 10:21:31 AM »
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“To win games we have to have 11 players playing at 110 per cent and this is not the case at the moment. Every game the opponents are running more than us.”

Can we end the nonsense that it's not the players fault at all, they're trying, they are just shit. When a manager comes out and says the players are playing for themselves and not putting the effort in then you know something is really wrong in the dressing room.

I don't think I've ever seen a manager make a comment quite so damning about his own players. We are utterly broken, from the dressing room to the boardroom.

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2883 on: January 11, 2016, 10:21:51 AM »
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“To win games we have to have 11 players playing at 110 per cent and this is not the case at the moment. Every game the opponents are running more than us.”

Can we end the nonsense that it's not the players fault at all, they're trying, they are just shit. When a manager comes out and says the players are playing for themselves and not putting the effort in then you know something is really wrong in the dressing room.

Exactly. When Gestede just stopped running at one point when the ball was crossed in, I actually felt embarrassed for him. They're not putting a shift in, and in the case of that pair of twats Guzan and Lescott, they just don't care.

Lescott purports to be a Villa fan. I know of no Villa fan who would be able to sit watching us struggle against Wycombe, on a club record run without defeats, whilst laughing like a little school girl. Where is his passion for the club? Where is his personal pride? It's one last pay check on what he though was going to be the easiest of streets for him, no expectations, barrow boy of a manager, fans downbeat, no hierarchy who cares, a nice earner. He wasn't expecting this at all.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2884 on: January 11, 2016, 10:23:16 AM »
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“To win games we have to have 11 players playing at 110 per cent and this is not the case at the moment. Every game the opponents are running more than us.”

Can we end the nonsense that it's not the players fault at all, they're trying, they are just shit. When a manager comes out and says the players are playing for themselves and not putting the effort in then you know something is really wrong in the dressing room.

I don't think I've ever seen a manager make a comment quite so damning about his own players. We are utterly broken, from the dressing room to the boardroom.

I know he started quite well, but Idrissa Gueye has 100% not been putting in the hard yards the last couple of months. I don't think he wants to be here at all.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2885 on: January 11, 2016, 10:23:42 AM »
This, aside from times of genuine personal lows, is perhaps the bluest Monday morning ever Villa and non Villa related. 


Yes, it's a awful day for Villa fans of Bowie. It's days like this you wonder why you bother about it so much but then you realize you've been in so deep for so many years it's in your blood, like it or not.

Offline MattW

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2886 on: January 11, 2016, 10:26:40 AM »
As I said on the transfer thread, use the fucking phone. You could buy a Bowery with all the flight costs to New York, or is Randy sending the jet? Farcical.

Right on. The blundering starts at the very top.

Offline MattW

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2887 on: January 11, 2016, 10:29:28 AM »
Or Garde is serious about cancelling a few contracts and they need Lerner to give the green light. 
Or they think we need another change and Garde is out. 
Or they are planning for inevitable relegation and the aftermath (no forget that, that would require some forethought).

Could be any of these but I'd seriously doubt even we'd be so unprepared as to be having to fly across the Atlantic to beg for transfer funds on the 11th January though.

But it's Villa kicking season in the media so whatever makes us look more incompetent makes better copy - it's not like they risk Lerner cutting the media off is it.  They've bought all this on themselves.



Yep, it's not about asking for more funds. There would be way more to it than that. The board haven't exactly covered themselves in glory, but I don't think they are just starting transfer discussions two weeks into the window. If fact last month Garde was already talking about the window and strengthening. I doubt he was only discussion that with his wife and the bloke in the mirror.

The Torygraph article mentioned above written by John Percy argues otherwise TV.

Chief executive and sporting director are heading for New York to ask for funds to strengthen the team following latest humiliation.

Here is a photo from the article, which I find quite sad.



Yes, I also found that photo sad. It must be extremely difficult for him and he's done nothing wrong.

Offline pbavfckuwait

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2888 on: January 11, 2016, 10:43:49 AM »
I hope to god that you are correct Brian, because there are a number of players who need to be culled, I think you and me have already agreed on the ring leader, Richards and I think ably assisted by the likes of Guzan, Lescott, Gabby,Greilish if his attitude to being a professional footballer does not change sharpish there is obviously an issue of attitude with Kozak, Charlie fashion sense is harmless enough, just a leech on the clubs finance and then we get to the ones that are just not good enough, big turnover and even bigger investment to replace, I think Lerner will take the easy option and let Remi go.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2889 on: January 11, 2016, 11:03:41 AM »
1 thing is for sure, Garde is not to blame for this mess

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2890 on: January 11, 2016, 11:04:35 AM »
1 thing is for sure, Garde is not to blame for this mess

Exactly, people need way way more patience with Garde given the utter shambles he's come into.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2891 on: January 11, 2016, 11:12:10 AM »
I suspect that it's just the case of people being thoroughly demoralised by non stop poor results venting frustrations at the first target that comes into view. Garde can take it I think - he's a strong character and has talked a few times about staying here in the long term.

Offline MattW

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2892 on: January 11, 2016, 11:13:51 AM »
He doesn't sound like someone about to quit. From his press conference this morning, tweeted by @AVFCOfficial:

Rémi Garde: It is predictable in our situation that people get angry against everybody. We have to cope - and find the solution. #AVFC

Rémi Garde: When you have players who have been suffering for weeks or years, they could be helped by new players. #AVFC

Rémi Garde: I knew the job would be difficult. But I love the job. I have no regrets coming here. #AVFC

Rémi Garde: My target is to try and help the club get through this very bad period. I am doing my best. #AVFC

Rémi Garde: We are going to try and put the same intensity into this @CPFC game as we did against @whufc_official.

Rémi Garde: In the @whufc_official game, I felt something special between the team and the fans. We need the same feeling this week. #AVFC

Rémi Garde: @CPFC are doing well. They have a lot of confidence. It will be a tough game. But there will be a possibility to win. #AVFC

Offline Olof's Beard

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2893 on: January 11, 2016, 11:23:33 AM »
He is write to cite the West Ham game. Even though on paper it looked like our least important game over the Christmas period, it turned out to be the most important. We had got a bit of momentum going in the 2nd half at Newcastle, and the players carried that into the West Ham and produced what was comfortably their most complete performance of the season. Nobody played badly that day, which is extremely rare, and the likes of Gestede, Lescott and Sanchez before he went off were having their best game of the season.

But there's a big problem. That was definitely the best we played all season and possibly the best this team is capable of playing at all. Yet we still didn't win. In amongst all that, Garde made arguably the most costly tactical mistake of his tenure when Sanchez went off. He moved Westwood back into Sanchez's role, kept Veretout inside and stuck Gil out on the right. Their left back scored within five minutes after Hutton was left exposed, and Gil was moved inside with Veretout going out wide, providing much more effective cover in the process.

Usually such a small detail would mean nothing in the context of a whole season, but in our desperate position, it was enough to cost us a goal, a win, possibly more points in the two games that followed and possibly wasted our last chance. But given that was the best this team can do, they rarely muster more than 1 goal in a match and ALWAYS make at least four or five chronic errors that lead to goal and gilt-edged chances, you have to feel sorry for him. He is on a hiding to nothing. I just don't know whether he will be able to survive his association with this. Fans come in all types, and plenty will see it as his fault. Remember the (slightly embarrassing) fan interviews when he was appointed.

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2894 on: January 11, 2016, 11:26:08 AM »
1 thing is for sure, Garde is not to blame for this mess

Exactly, people need way way more patience with Garde given the utter shambles he's come into.

There's no sign of improvement whatsoever though. If we had improved from being absolutely shit under Sherwood to merely being rubbish under Garde, I'd cut him some slack and have a little patience. But we've just laboured to a 1-1 draw against a side over 50 positions lower than us in the league. Not sure who's fault that is? Sherwoods? O'Neill's? It really is difficult to remain patient at the moment. 
   

 


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