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Offline oldtimernow

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2865 on: January 11, 2016, 08:26:20 AM »
Or Garde is serious about cancelling a few contracts and they need Lerner to give the green light. 
Or they think we need another change and Garde is out. 
Or they are planning for inevitable relegation and the aftermath (no forget that, that would require some forethought).

Could be any of these but I'd seriously doubt even we'd be so unprepared as to be having to fly across the Atlantic to beg for transfer funds on the 11th January though.

But it's Villa kicking season in the media so whatever makes us look more incompetent makes better copy - it's not like they risk Lerner cutting the media off is it.  They've bought all this on themselves.




Transatlantic flights usually start to get cheaper after the 10th of January or even Avios?

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2866 on: January 11, 2016, 08:26:27 AM »
I think so. It is a back me or sack me meeting.  Tom Fox has every reason to be nervous too.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2867 on: January 11, 2016, 08:29:46 AM »
If that is the case Brian and Paul, fair play to Remi for sticking to his guns. These are not his players, they don't seem to want to play for him, so give him the right support and get rid of them, but allow him to bring his own players in. Or, Remi walks and we hit the F5 button again.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2868 on: January 11, 2016, 08:37:38 AM »
If Garde was to walk, I reckon it might be for the level of abuse if anything. It's not something he should have to put up with.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2869 on: January 11, 2016, 08:45:28 AM »
If Garde was to walk, I reckon it might be for the level of abuse if anything. It's not something he should have to put up with.

That would be a real low. I really don't understand the abuse towards Garde.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2870 on: January 11, 2016, 08:46:00 AM »
If Garde was to walk, I reckon it might be for the level of abuse if anything. It's not something he should have to put up with.

That would be a real low. I really don't understand the abuse towards Garde.


Nope neither do, I think it's ridiculous.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2871 on: January 11, 2016, 08:47:29 AM »
If Garde was to walk, I reckon it might be for the level of abuse if anything. It's not something he should have to put up with.

That would be a real low. I really don't understand the abuse towards Garde.


Nope neither do, I think it's ridiculous.

If he can't even get this team up to put in a good performance against a 4th Division side he deserves to get some abuse!

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2872 on: January 11, 2016, 08:47:41 AM »
I agree Clampy.  Without being patronising to fans you would expect a man who carries himself and communicates with dignity like Remi Garde does to get less common abuse.  I don't think he is one of the elephant skinned, through the car window quote type managers and will make that clear to the owner.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2873 on: January 11, 2016, 08:48:02 AM »
I actually don't think in that picture they were shouting at Garde, they are not looking at him but seemingly out to the pitch.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2874 on: January 11, 2016, 08:52:29 AM »
Nobody, you, me, the manager, the players "deserve" abuse.  They deserve criticism of whatever intensity is appropriate but abusing anybody for any reason is, apart from anything else unlawful.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2875 on: January 11, 2016, 09:00:45 AM »
This, aside from times of genuine personal lows, is perhaps the bluest Monday morning ever Villa and non Villa related. 

I can't bear to look at the aggro footage from the weekend, all I can say is that I stand behind Remi Garde, he has my respect, he's taken on a huge job, and every time I hear him speak my respect for him grows.  All we can do as decent fans is do our best to show that at every opportunity.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2876 on: January 11, 2016, 09:02:44 AM »
My guess is that the meeting is to get Randy Lerner's approval to the night of the long knives Remi Garde wants to have.

It is not about bringing players in, it is about shipping them out.   Remi does not want another bomb squad, he wants a clear out and it will cost money.  If Randy prevaricates or tries to compromise on a budget clear out I think Remi Garde will tender his resignation there in New York.

Is there anything at all to indicate this would be Garde's intention for the meeting? I'd be happy if it were so but I think it's wishful thinking. Surely it's much more likely they'll discuss potential recruits and what it might take to get them (though I admit this could well be wishful thinking too - hah!).

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2877 on: January 11, 2016, 09:35:51 AM »
Scott, over the last five years we have had to develop Bletchley Park levels of forensic rune reading where Villa are concerned. The comments about the players Remi wants to come but who have been put off by team performances, spliced with his comments about players not doing what he tells them, together with him saying the players deserve the fans' criticism indicate to me that he regards the cutting out the rot in the squad as his first priority.

If you are going to do heart transplant surgery first you have to cut out the old one.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2878 on: January 11, 2016, 10:08:54 AM »
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“To win games we have to have 11 players playing at 110 per cent and this is not the case at the moment. Every game the opponents are running more than us.”

Can we end the nonsense that it's not the players fault at all, they're trying, they are just shit. When a manager comes out and says the players are playing for themselves and not putting the effort in then you know something is really wrong in the dressing room.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2879 on: January 11, 2016, 10:15:50 AM »
Some of them try and are shit
Some of them try and are decent
Some of them don't try and as a result they are shit
Some of them don't try and this is incidental as they are shit.

The very fact that collectively they are unable to follow what are instructions, not penned or promulgated by Tolstoy or Einstein, means there must be a schism in the squad.

Time for a total clear out. Frustratingly some that get binned may go on to have good careers not with us, though many will disappear into oblivion.

 


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