Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[sickbeggar]

I can't imagine Garde still being here in August other than pure bloodymindness from Lerner. Even shite managers experience the temporary "new boss bounce". Garde isn't shite imo, but we needed someone in who could motivate them and get a bit of confidence in them. He's done none of that. You can't polish a turd but crikey there's div1 sides who would be putting on a better show of staying up.

[Chris Harte]

One thing I don't get is that we frequently hear people say it is the buying of inexperienced young French players which is the problem, yet if you look at the players most frequently listed as being at fault here, it isn't the young French players at all - Guzan, Lescott, Bacuna, Richards, Richardson,Clark, Westwood, Gabby etc - these aren't the recent purchases.

The only one of the recently purchased who looks like a huge waste of money is Gestede, and he is not young or an import from the French league.

The problem is, he was replacing the player we most needed to replace well.

The thought crossed my mind today whether Garde was sticking with the "speak English only" policy and whether that could be the issue to some degree. But like you've pointed out, the French (Gestede aside) and the Spanish players do not seem to be the focus of people's ire.

[FranzBiberkopf]

I like Garde, I do, but he's done nothing so far to earn the chance to manage us next season. Over time he may change it round, but he's not going to get long enough. If we're lucky he'll get us, what 3 or 4 wins between now and the end of the season. And, poor though this squad is, atrociously poor, thats just not good enough. It'd be something like 3/4 wins out of 20+ games? No manager can survive with that win rate.

Don't forget, once we're down, the majority of the squad will still be here. The Bacunas, the Sinclairs, the Westwoods, the Clarkes are going nowhere I'm afraid. No-one in the PL will touch them, and no-one in the Championship will pay their wages. Grade (or whoever) might tweak round the edges, but the core will remain I'm afraid. Can't see us writing off contracts either.

[sickbeggar]

I like Garde, I do, but he's done nothing so far to earn the chance to manage us next season. Over time he may change it round, but he's not going to get long enough. If we're lucky he'll get us, what 3 or 4 wins between now and the end of the season. And, poor though this squad is, atrociously poor, thats just not good enough. It'd be something like 3/4 wins out of 20+ games? No manager can survive with that win rate.

Don't forget, once we're down, the majority of the squad will still be here. The Bacunas, the Sinclairs, the Westwoods, the Clarkes are going nowhere I'm afraid. No-one in the PL will touch them, and no-one in the Championship will pay their wages. Grade (or whoever) might tweak round the edges, but the core will remain I'm afraid. Can't see us writing off contracts either.

yep. common sense dictates a good half of them will be expected to launch a promotion challenge. They're not playing for him now, so why will they be arsed come August?

[auntiesledd]

Indeed, some divine intervention would be helpful right about now   

Ha, ain't that the truth!

Actually,  we could put an SOS out to any extraterrestrials whist we're at it: friendly or otherwise. I've had it with these stinking-rich-&-useless earthlings buggering up the Villa.

#prayingforthealiens

[Villa in Denmark]

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I'm not sure whether the confidence was totally shot at the end of Sherwood's 'reign' or soon after Garde started, but I certainly think that it's been coming for a while now. I too believe that Remi won't be given the opportunity to rebuild the squad - be it through him walking or being relieved of his duties - and I have no faith in the abilities of the powers-that-be to finally make the correct appointment(s) from here or overseas. The exit of Lerner & Co is probably the only way our club is ever going to move on from these shite times, so all I can do is echo your parting line of "God Help us".   

I think it was pretty close to rock bottom by the time Sherwood left, not helped by the apparently split dressing room.

What finally pushed it through the floor was failing to convert decent positions and pressure against Watford and West Ham.

[auntiesledd]

Edited to avoid quotathon:

I'm not sure whether the confidence was totally shot at the end of Sherwood's 'reign' or soon after Garde started, but I certainly think that it's been coming for a while now. I too believe that Remi won't be given the opportunity to rebuild the squad - be it through him walking or being relieved of his duties - and I have no faith in the abilities of the powers-that-be to finally make the correct appointment(s) from here or overseas. The exit of Lerner & Co is probably the only way our club is ever going to move on from these shite times, so all I can do is echo your parting line of "God Help us".   

I think it was pretty close to rock bottom by the time Sherwood left, not helped by the apparently split dressing room.

What finally pushed it through the floor was failing to convert decent positions and pressure against Watford and West Ham.

You're probably right on all counts, ViD. Garde didn't really stand a chance from day one, the job was fecked.

[Tony Erdington]

his record is shot, he cant pick a team, he has lost the dressing room already, he is to all intent and purpose Harvey Oswald. Lerner killed the Villa

[PaulWinch again]

his record is shot, he cant pick a team, he has lost the dressing room already, he is to all intent and purpose Harvey Oswald. Lerner killed the Villa

Not sure your analogy works, but I don't think we can fairly judge Garde yet.

[Steve67]

I wonder, if you could do it tomorrow, would you bring in Moyes or stick with Garde?

[Holte L2]

I wonder, if you could do it tomorrow, would you bring in Moyes or stick with Garde?

I'd bring in Moyes with Steve Round and Chris Woods to work with him. (Hopefully Woods can replace Guzan).

[levico]

his record is shot, he cant pick a team, he has lost the dressing room already, he is to all intent and purpose Harvey Oswald. Lerner killed the Villa

Where's Jack Ruby when you need him?

[Steve67]

Perhaps it's time for a poll? Keep him, sack him, he will walk, what difference will it make whilst Randy reigns? Etc.

[Herman]

his record is shot, he cant pick a team, he has lost the dressing room already, he is to all intent and purpose Harvey Oswald. Lerner killed the Villa

Where's Jack Ruby when you need him?

Very good

[Nunkin1965]

I wonder, if you could do it tomorrow, would you bring in Moyes or stick with Garde?

I'd bring in Moyes with Steve Round and Chris Woods to work with him. (Hopefully Woods can replace Guzan).

Are we playing fantasy football manager again?

Alright I'm going for Clough and Taylor to be brought in to turn It around because there more chance of them appearing at VP doing it than Moyes. He's already turned us down at least twice.