Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[CJ]

I really don't see the point in getting rid of Garde. The problem isn't going to be solved by constantly changing the manager - as the saying goes, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. The malaise is so deeply rooted throughout the club that another change of manager will achieve nothing. Things will only change when the prime cause of the mess sells up. In the meantime I would keep Garde, let him get rid of the dross, bring his own staff in, determine a way of playing and getting the players in to deliver it. 

[mr underhill]

I don't think the danger comes from the threat of the sack (at the moment) but more from the man not wanting to be caught up in this poisonous crap for much longer.

[brian green]

If we let Remi Garde go at this juncture it will prove nothing other than the lunatics have taken over the asylum.

[Risso]

Anybody who thinks Garde should go at this stage hasn't been paying attention for the last five years.

Spot on.

Sacking him now would be the ultimate act of fucking idiocy.

Agree completely, there seems to be this belief that a change of manager cures all. Sherwood had to go because he was a fucking idiot and poisonous with it, Garde is nothing like that.

Results are the same though.

[supertom]

If we let Remi Garde go at this juncture it will prove nothing other than the lunatics have taken over the asylum.

Or there's no point sacking him now. But I don't see us winning more than 2-3 games (if we're lucky) before May. So at that point he'd have to go. No matter his circumstances it would be inexcusable.

That being said the world and his wife know the biggest issue is those running the club. If we've got any chance of avoiding a double drop, we need a completely clean sweep from top to bottom. Fox is incompetent and if Randy doesn't care, he needs to hire a chairman who will actually want to run the club. Or by the grace of McGrath, we might get a buyer...

[themossman]

Where has this idea that garde has no guts come from? Not aiming this at anyone in particular but how can anyone possibly say that about anyone else, when they know a fraction of the relevant facts?

[ozzjim]

Think is though Supertom, the players at Lyon loved him. They thought he was an inspirational manager and someone they really wanted to play for.

I think the issues in our squad are so deep that whoever it is needs to simply be backed to do what is necessary to sort out the squad. Garde has a good reputation with young players. Give him the support to do what is necessary.

[PaulWinch again]

Anybody who thinks Garde should go at this stage hasn't been paying attention for the last five years.

Spot on.

Sacking him now would be the ultimate act of fucking idiocy.

Agree completely, there seems to be this belief that a change of manager cures all. Sherwood had to go because he was a fucking idiot and poisonous with it, Garde is nothing like that.

Results are the same though.

Yes they are, but he hasn't had the chance to create his own the squad. The point is sacking Sherwood made sense, because he was an idiot, but you don't sack every manager after a handful of games if they struggle.

[Nunkin1965]

Think is though Supertom, the players at Lyon loved him. They thought he was an inspirational manager and someone they really wanted to play for.

I think the issues in our squad are so deep that whoever it is needs to simply be backed to do what is necessary to sort out the squad. Garde has a good reputation with young players. Give him the support to do what is necessary.

Agreement from me there. We've got to start somewhere and I'd definitely give Garde a chance. He's the only one to have the balls with Gabby for a start. Theres a lot of shit on his Villa plate and it isn't going to change overnight.

[themossman]

His biggest crime seems to be picking shit players. Thing is though they're all shit. Take gestede. Total cart horse, but scorer of the winning goal in our only league win of the season, and there's an argument he's still our best pick there, which is terrifying in itself. Of course there's also an argument he shouldn't be picked, which I respect, but let's keep it in perspective - it's not like we've got aguero on the bench.

[supertom]

Think is though Supertom, the players at Lyon loved him. They thought he was an inspirational manager and someone they really wanted to play for.

I think the issues in our squad are so deep that whoever it is needs to simply be backed to do what is necessary to sort out the squad. Garde has a good reputation with young players. Give him the support to do what is necessary.

If we start to see some improvement or some kind of progress then he'll earn a chance next season. But it needs to happen soon. I mean if he can't even win at the club, that's a lot of damage to overcome and that may leave things untenable. When Derby went down on a record low points and Jewell had taken over didn't it take him a hell of long time to win in the Championship? Sometimes you become so stained by losing at a club you can't recover. He was gone by the end of the year.

He deserves time given what he inherited, and seemingly some poisonous characters, but at the same time he's not helping himself with poor decision making.
We're down. That's a certainty but there needs to be some kind of turnaround in results. We need to regain some pride and if we get to the point it's all but mathematically certain I'd like to see him try and blood a few kids and let us play without any pressure. Give them  some experience and drop absolute toss like Bacuna who seems to be enjoying this horrifying situation too much for my liking. The sooner he drops some of the chancers we've been putting up with, the better and fans will get back onside with him a bit more. I mean how bad does Gestede have to be before he gets dropped?

[Flamingo Lane]

I think it makes every sense for Garde to give Gestede as much game time as he possibly can in what remains of this premier league season, given (a) his age (b) the need to expand his experience (c) the amount of money we paid for him (d) the length of his contract (e) the fact we are doomed anyway and (f) the paucity of meaningful alternatives.

[Nunkin1965]

Bacuna is something else Garde has to deal with. Who in their right mind gives a guy of Bacunas, at best and with all due respect, average ability such a long contract?? Its madness as we're not competitive enough to give players such security. Its not as if we'll be trying to re negotiate with him and his agent when his deal reaches 2 years remaining is it? Farcical mis management.

[ROBBO]

Houllier had exactly the same problem, getting rid of the trouble makers. We are infested from top to bottom and I have a lot of sympathy for Garde, he could not have imagined how badly run our club is and anyone who thinks another change of manager is the answer obviously does not understand the question.
Appointing a chairman is not going to help the cause because he would be powerless there is only one decision maker at the club and he lives in the states.

[claret and blue blood]

Not that I'm even remotely suggesting it, or would welcome it, but Paul Lambert would be better suited for us in the Championship than Remi Garde. (Though he's still be utterly, utterly fucking shit).

Who we'd get next? I have no idea but I don't think Remi has the guts for a Championship cluster fuck. I also think he's making decisions just as baffling as the last two plonkers.

If Randy can't find a seller he has to shift his arse into gear and get this new chairman we were promised, followed by firing Fox out of a cannon into shark infested sewage.
We need a new board, a new manager and a serious injection of inspiration from somewhere. Remi couldn't even inspire a smile out of Gabby, even if he took him to the nearest McDonald's and bought the fat twazzock 10 happy meals. Someone said it best when they compared him to a Science teacher.

in your opinion mate

At last, a lot of sense spoken there. Garde is the worst of all the post MON managers.