Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[saunders_heroes]

We weren't on anything like as bad a run under Lambert when Sherwood arrived as we were under Sherwood when Garde came.

Any team which wins a game then draws one, then loses nine on the bounce is mentally done for. That's an awful situation to inherit.

Before Sherwood took over, we'd drawn 3 and lost 7, including 5 straight defeats  in which time we'd scored 2 goals in 10 games. I would say that is equally horrific to be honest.  And the start of this run came not that long after the 6 game losing streak where we'd failed to score a single goal.

Basically we've been shit for absolutely ages under 3 different managers and even before mention McLeish. The club is rotten to the core, sadly.

[andyh]

For me, one of the biggest issues about his suitability is who we have actually played in his first 9 games.
Had we played the 'big boys' and taken so few points then it could be kind of acceptable/understandable.
The fact his 9 games in charge include Newcastle, Sunderland, Norwich, and (injury hit) West Ham and we have yielded 2 points must place huge question marks over him.
I will give him the benefit of the doubt with Watford and Everton (who were in the middle of a bad run when we played them).   

[ozzjim]

Everton are in a bad run now but had battered a couple of sizes before us.  His cv I meant as a coach. Nothing is going to change or situation now so we need to let him get 3 or 4 of his own men and see if he can improve results. I agree with Risso about Norwich but in both the games against Norwich and Sunderland it had highlighted the very thin nature of the squad. I also think he needs a couple more coaches in that have maybe got some experience here.

[Risso]

If he doesn't get a win soon, the tide of opinion will start to turn I reckon. There's only so long the poor squad excuse will protect him. 

[kippaxvilla2]

If he is that concerned about the squad quality then where are we with new signings and bids?  We literally do not have a moment to waste in this window if he wants to bring players in so where are they?  Maybe they've decided sod it as they think we are down.

[passport1]

Is it too early to re -christen him Relegateme Garde or R word Garde?

[mr underhill]

mathematically, yes it is

[passport1]

OK

[pauliewalnuts]

We weren't on anything like as bad a run under Lambert when Sherwood arrived as we were under Sherwood when Garde came.

Any team which wins a game then draws one, then loses nine on the bounce is mentally done for. That's an awful situation to inherit.

Before Sherwood took over, we'd drawn 3 and lost 7, including 5 straight defeats  in which time we'd scored 2 goals in 10 games. I would say that is equally horrific to be honest.  And the start of this run came not that long after the 6 game losing streak where we'd failed to score a single goal.

My feeling on this is that it just can't be the manager every single time.

I don't think there's a manager out there who would have turned this one around. If we are going down - and we are - I would prefer to stick with the manager we have got.

It just all gets so fucking random and scattergun, people going on about Nigel Pearson based on the fact he got Leicester promoted and kept them up - uncannily like Lambert's credentials when he got the job, whilst ignoring all the evidence that he's also off his fucking head. Or daydreaming about getting David Moyes in.

If we are going down, I want a manager who wants to play the game the right way and has demonstrably made a team do that, which is what Garde has done. He is also already in place and will have had two thirds of a season in which to get to know the club.

Giving him this car crash of a season alone isn't enough.

[not3bad]

We weren't on anything like as bad a run under Lambert when Sherwood arrived as we were under Sherwood when Garde came.

Any team which wins a game then draws one, then loses nine on the bounce is mentally done for. That's an awful situation to inherit.

Before Sherwood took over, we'd drawn 3 and lost 7, including 5 straight defeats  in which time we'd scored 2 goals in 10 games. I would say that is equally horrific to be honest.  And the start of this run came not that long after the 6 game losing streak where we'd failed to score a single goal.

My feeling on this is that it just can't be the manager every single time.

I don't think there's a manager out there who would have turned this one around. If we are going down - and we are - I would prefer to stick with the manager we have got.

It just all gets so fucking random and scattergun, people going on about Nigel Pearson based on the fact he got Leicester promoted and kept them up - uncannily like Lambert's credentials when he got the job, whilst ignoring all the evidence that he's also off his fucking head. Or daydreaming about getting David Moyes in.

If we are going down, I want a manager who wants to play the game the right way and has demonstrably made a team do that, which is what Garde has done. He is also already in place and will have had two thirds of a season in which to get to know the club.

Giving him this car crash of a season alone isn't enough.

According to Talksport Remi Garde is about 4/1 to be the next manager fired, and Remi Garde's replacement is on about 7 or 8/1 to be the one fired after that.

[joe_c]

We weren't on anything like as bad a run under Lambert when Sherwood arrived as we were under Sherwood when Garde came.

Any team which wins a game then draws one, then loses nine on the bounce is mentally done for. That's an awful situation to inherit.

Before Sherwood took over, we'd drawn 3 and lost 7, including 5 straight defeats  in which time we'd scored 2 goals in 10 games. I would say that is equally horrific to be honest.  And the start of this run came not that long after the 6 game losing streak where we'd failed to score a single goal.

My feeling on this is that it just can't be the manager every single time.

I don't think there's a manager out there who would have turned this one around. If we are going down - and we are - I would prefer to stick with the manager we have got.

It just all gets so fucking random and scattergun, people going on about Nigel Pearson based on the fact he got Leicester promoted and kept them up - uncannily like Lambert's credentials when he got the job, whilst ignoring all the evidence that he's also off his fucking head. Or daydreaming about getting David Moyes in.

If we are going down, I want a manager who wants to play the game the right way and has demonstrably made a team do that, which is what Garde has done. He is also already in place and will have had two thirds of a season in which to get to know the club.

Giving him this car crash of a season alone isn't enough.

Exactly. The only way in which the season could get worse would be Nigel Pearson pitching up in B6 with a vanload of players you'd want next to you in the trenches while simultaneously rolling their sleeves up and running through brick walls. Fuck that.

[peter w]

Well you say fuck that, and I'm not in absolute disagreement, but there's  reason SGT signed the likes of David Hunt and Steve Sims when he first came in.

[Chris Smith]

Well you say fuck that, and I'm not in absolute disagreement, but there's  reason SGT signed the likes of David Hunt and Steve Sims when he first came in.

The reason being it was 30 years ago, his ideas didn't work so well last time around.

[cheltenhamlion]

You can spin stats how you want though.

I do see an improvement under Garde. Sherwood/Mcdonald lost 9 of 11 matches. Garde has lost 50%. Not great by any stretch but given that he has to work with that shit house defence and no functioning striker exactly what do you expect of him?

Their confidence is shot and the dressing room fractured, with the Senior Pro's undermining everything he tries. What on earth is he supposed to do about that in a couple of months?

[JUAN PABLO]

We weren't on anything like as bad a run under Lambert when Sherwood arrived as we were under Sherwood when Garde came.

Any team which wins a game then draws one, then loses nine on the bounce is mentally done for. That's an awful situation to inherit.

Before Sherwood took over, we'd drawn 3 and lost 7, including 5 straight defeats  in which time we'd scored 2 goals in 10 games. I would say that is equally horrific to be honest.  And the start of this run came not that long after the 6 game losing streak where we'd failed to score a single goal.

My feeling on this is that it just can't be the manager every single time.

I don't think there's a manager out there who would have turned this one around. If we are going down - and we are - I would prefer to stick with the manager we have got.

It just all gets so fucking random and scattergun, people going on about Nigel Pearson based on the fact he got Leicester promoted and kept them up - uncannily like Lambert's credentials when he got the job, whilst ignoring all the evidence that he's also off his fucking head. Or daydreaming about getting David Moyes in.

If we are going down, I want a manager who wants to play the game the right way and has demonstrably made a team do that, which is what Garde has done. He is also already in place and will have had two thirds of a season in which to get to know the club.

Giving him this car crash of a season alone isn't enough.

What i was hearing was it was actually cambiasso that changed things at leicester . He started to take over the dressing room and doing all the talks etc, not sure how true it is. I wish we had signed him thou .