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Author Topic: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa  (Read 941492 times)

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2415 on: January 04, 2016, 12:32:45 PM »
The effort is there. It's just that we're shit.

I don't fully agree, with a few players the effort is there. Hutton for example, when he gets forward does not track back. Is this because he can't? Or he just wont? If he can't then he shouldn't be asked to do what he is doing, simple tactical flaw. None of the midfield cover much ground, they mostly play on each others toes. Is this because they are told to do this or is it because they are lazy and don't make driving runs they are being asked to do? The forwards, their closing down is terrible, are they too slow or too half arsed about it? Whatever the reasons are and they do need to be covered we simply don't work hard enough.

Fully agree with the we are shit bit though.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2416 on: January 04, 2016, 12:34:09 PM »

No doubt we're shit, thats why we are where we are. But I also don't think we have anything like the same work rate as other sides, not just the top sides either.
I completely agree with this, we stand still and only move when the ball comes into our vicinity.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2417 on: January 04, 2016, 12:40:00 PM »
I'll be surprised if he's still our manager come the start of next season. I don't think he'll fancy it in the Championship.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2418 on: January 04, 2016, 12:45:57 PM »
I'll be surprised if he's still our manager come the start of next season. I don't think he'll fancy it in the Championship.

He's said on a number of times that he see's this as at least a medium term job, could be bullshit, but unless there's a hell of a lot of shit and fighting behind the scenes I think he will be here.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2419 on: January 04, 2016, 01:11:40 PM »
The effort is there. It's just that we're shit.

I disagree. This is the laziest, spineless bunch of players I've ever seen. If I was cherry picking our relegated squad in the summer, I'd go for Ayew, Amavi, Okore and Veretout. The rest, no thanks. Bacuna in particular, is an abomination of a player. I doubt if any Villa player has ever wound me up to the extent that he has.

As for Garde, I said on the day that he was appointed that this was the end for us as a Premier league side and we were then only 4 points adrift at that point. Following a long sabbatical, and no premier league experience, it appears that he has neither the tactical nouse or the fighting qualities to get us anywhere near a survival shot. Somebody above described Pearson in less than glowing terms, but he inspired Leicester players to carry on believing that they could stay up last season, when everyone said they were dead and buried. That's the sort of inspiration needed from the man in charge in desperate times. We just seem to get worse.

Garde looks a defeated man already. The calm and intellectual facade from his first few weeks has disappeared, to reveal and man who looks scared and lost during matches. In turn, the heads of the players go down as soon as there's a setback in a game. Garde may have a long term plan, but he walked into a club where all the red lights were already flashing and he has been unable so far to address this. We can't defend, our midfield is weak and unorganised and the attack toothless. Ultimately, the responsibility for his appointment is down to the clowns that employed him, no doubt he was the cheapest option and I appreciate that he has been royally stitched up, inheriting such an abysmal sqaud. Nice man, but not anywhere good enough for us I'm afraid.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2420 on: January 04, 2016, 01:14:50 PM »

No doubt we're shit, thats why we are where we are. But I also don't think we have anything like the same work rate as other sides, not just the top sides either.

We're bottom of the league when it comes to stats on ground covered during games as well aren't we?

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2421 on: January 04, 2016, 01:21:21 PM »
I'll be surprised if he's still our manager come the start of next season. I don't think he'll fancy it in the Championship.

He'll at least want to stay until he wins a game.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2422 on: January 04, 2016, 01:24:47 PM »
I felt for him a bit on Saturday. He must be tearing his hair out at some of the goals we've let in.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2423 on: January 04, 2016, 01:33:16 PM »
I felt for him a bit on Saturday. He must be tearing his hair out at some of the goals we've let in.
The questions I have is who was supposed to be protecting the Right side of midfield as the same thing happened last week with Gill on the pitch, the left back strolled up and had a free shot at goal.
Why the fuck has he not dropped Guzan?

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2424 on: January 04, 2016, 01:36:46 PM »
The idea that a guy who has an excellent coaching CV and was very highly thought of at Lyon is not good enough for us is brilliant. Maybe not suited to us at this point in time, but I think he is at least qualified for the job unlike the last chancer.

9 games with one of the worst sides we have had in years is enough time for some to make their mind up. Mad world.

I would be gutted if he went in the summer to be replaced by a Pearson type.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2425 on: January 04, 2016, 01:45:45 PM »
The idea that a guy who has an excellent coaching CV and was very highly thought of at Lyon is not good enough for us is brilliant. Maybe not suited to us at this point in time, but I think he is at least qualified for the job unlike the last chancer.

9 games with one of the worst sides we have had in years is enough time for some to make their mind up. Mad world.

I would be gutted if he went in the summer to be replaced by a Pearson type.
Me too, I hope he gets to sign some players of his choice and at least gets a chance to build something here.

If we do go back in the summer to a Pearson type then we are going down the same old scattergun random approach of picking managers since MON left.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2426 on: January 04, 2016, 01:49:08 PM »
The idea that a guy who has an excellent coaching CV and was very highly thought of at Lyon is not good enough for us is brilliant. Maybe not suited to us at this point in time, but I think he is at least qualified for the job unlike the last chancer.

9 games with one of the worst sides we have had in years is enough time for some to make their mind up. Mad world.

I would be gutted if he went in the summer to be replaced by a Pearson type.
I get this and we need to build some stability, and God do I hope it works out.
This does feel and look like an experiment though.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2427 on: January 04, 2016, 01:53:22 PM »
I felt for him a bit on Saturday. He must be tearing his hair out at some of the goals we've let in.
The questions I have is who was supposed to be protecting the Right side of midfield as the same thing happened last week with Gill on the pitch, the left back strolled up and had a free shot at goal.
Why the fuck has he not dropped Guzan?

The No1 priority this window should be to find a replacement for Guzan. I think he is gone at this level, punch drunk from too many defeats and more and more unconvincing performances. He will forever be associated with some of the appalling stats we've acquired in the last few years.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2428 on: January 04, 2016, 02:16:27 PM »

No doubt we're shit, thats why we are where we are. But I also don't think we have anything like the same work rate as other sides, not just the top sides either.
I completely agree with this, we stand still and only move when the ball comes into our vicinity.

There was something on recently about the movement of the 2 Watford strikers - it was incredible. Always running into space, chasing down defenders - this was a huge factor is Watford's good form.

Then you see our giant Oak Tree rooted up front and understand why we're so poor. Certainly not just him though I might add.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2429 on: January 04, 2016, 02:17:40 PM »
The idea that a guy who has an excellent coaching CV and was very highly thought of at Lyon is not good enough for us is brilliant. Maybe not suited to us at this point in time, but I think he is at least qualified for the job unlike the last chancer.

9 games with one of the worst sides we have had in years is enough time for some to make their mind up. Mad world.

I would be gutted if he went in the summer to be replaced by a Pearson type.

His CV is ok, not excellent. How is he qualified for the Villa job? he's never manager here, never done much in France as manager and has had a shocking start to his career over here

9 games without a win - I don't know what the worst ever start to a managerial role is, but this must be up there?

If, by "Pearson type", you mean a manager who can get a club promoted and then retain their place in the top flight, that would be exactly what we need, no? 

I hope that Garde turns out to be a good manager but, based on the start he's had at Villa, nobody can honestly say that with confidence. Everyone is guessing and hoping, me included

 


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