Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[Archie]

Ok, it is not Garde that built this dreadful squad, but I have few questions....
If Garde is supposed to be good, so why....
Why  doesn't he play Traorč who is probably our most technical player?
Why has he  always preferred Gestede to Kozak that is not Ronaldo but is 3 times better?
Why was not he be able to give a bit of enthusiasm and fighting spirit to players like Veretout and Gana, that were considered excellent prospects in his own country,  or like Gestede and Ayew that costed sixteen (16!) millions of £?
Why players like Richards, that played in the English national team, and Lescott, that  was named player of the season at WBA, play like a pair of amateurs without the "ABC" of the defensive movements and tactics?
Why does he tend to play Gestede that is good only with the head in a 4-3-1-2 formation without wingers?

[David_Nab]

At this point it seems the board very much like the summer transfers brought in someone who could well do well long term and they criminally forgot the short term issues.

He came into a long term mess going years back but the worst started in the last few months of Lambert ,despite some upturn under Sherwood we still lost matches and finished last season poorly.That carried on through preseason with poor results and defending attributed to gaining fitness but unsurprisingly it carried on into the season

Garde himself was not known for building a solid defence at Lyon and has done nothing to stop us shipping goal after goal , I also wonder if not being able to bring in his assistant's has hindered him.Again club thinking not to worry he will get his back room staff at the end of the season not thinking we needed action now.

[ChicagoLion]

There is no evidence to suggest that Garde was the right appointment and is the right one to get us out of this mess.
The experiment continues.

[Chris Jameson]

We could have appointed Guardiola and we'd still be bottom, have you seen what he has to work with?

[Rigadon]

We could have appointed Guardiola and we'd still be bottom, have you seen what he has to work with?

I agree we have a very weak squad.  I also agree that Guardiola would struggle to get tika taka or whatever it's called out of Gestede.  But Guardiola is never coming is he? 

We could've gone a different route a couple of months ago and didn't,  he question is whether the route we went was sensible.  I didn't think so at the time and am still waiting for a sign Garde is the right guy.  As somebody else said, we were 'only' a win and a draw from 'safety' when he showed up.  It's more than that now. 


 

[dave.woodhall]

At this point it seems the board very much like the summer transfers brought in someone who could well do well long term and they criminally forgot the short term issues.

I've been saying this all seaosn. We spent five years thinking short-term; now we've got a long-term plan without looking at what's under our noses.

[ROBBO]

Lerner is at the root of all our ills until he has gone we are rooted.

[Risso]

At this point it seems the board very much like the summer transfers brought in someone who could well do well long term and they criminally forgot the short term issues.

I've been saying this all seaosn. We spent five years thinking short-term; now we've got a long-term plan without looking at what's under our noses.

What do you reckon the plan is?  As I can't see any discernible signs of one to be honest.

[saunders_heroes]

I get the impression Garde is only in the job because he was out of work and relatively cheap. I'm not gonna fall for this 'long term plan' nonsense.

[mr woo]

I've always thought the mark of a good manager was apparent in those that had the ability to create a team that was greater than the sum of its parts. You could call it turd polishing if you want.

Clough had it for sure, O Neill had it (don't care what you say-its true) ,  you could argue the two Ronnies (S & A)  had it.  Graham Taylor certainly had it.

Garde?

Nope.


And that's why he should never have been given the job of rescuing a club in our situation. I wouldn't want to lay the blame at his feet however.

The man I hold totally and utterly responsible is that prick Tom Fox. For making the two worst successive managerial appointments in Villas history.

He fell for Sherwoods bullshit. And the recommendation of a man who'd proved himself incompetent in the very position he was recommending someone else for!

And this is all because we have put a money man and not a FOOTBALL man in charge of football affairs.

And so you could also make the argument that the man who appointed Tom Fox is the real culprit.

Yep. You probably wouldn't be wrong.

[Fasth56]

Ok, it is not Garde that built this dreadful squad, but I have few questions....
If Garde is supposed to be good, so why....
Why  doesn't he play Traorč who is probably our most technical player?
Why has he  always preferred Gestede to Kozak that is not Ronaldo but is 3 times better?
Why was not he be able to give a bit of enthusiasm and fighting spirit to players like Veretout and Gana, that were considered excellent prospects in his own country,  or like Gestede and Ayew that costed sixteen (16!) millions of £?
Why players like Richards, that played in the English national team, and Lescott, that  was named player of the season at WBA, play like a pair of amateurs without the "ABC" of the defensive movements and tactics?
Why does he tend to play Gestede that is good only with the head in a 4-3-1-2 formation without wingers?

Just my thoughts on your questions,

Traore has undoubted talent, however he knocks the ball long and then runs after it without it looking in proper control. After his first run the brighter managers then get a player to cover the marking defender and then just nick the ball as he knocks it, thus making him ineffective. Personally I'd play him down the middle and knock the ball over the top for him to run onto.

The mystery that is Kozak, I'd play him, but that's why I transport gas and don't manage a football club.

Arguably, Vertout has responded to his management, Gana may need a bit of time. Time that if Sherwood had played him he would have had. As for Gestede I doubt any manager could improve him.

I'm sure that Garde does not roll up to training and instill in the players the errors that they show on the pitch. Richards hasn't got a clue where he should be, I think Lescott is improving but having to deal with a centre half that doesn't know where he should be, lack of a recognised left back leaves us woefully short and the less said of the fcukwit in goal who wouldn't inspire confidence in anyone. To get beat on the near post once is not acceptable to continually get beat on the near post is dereliction of duty.

I've no answer to the last point because it is no good playing on the ground to Gestede as he has a touch like a 5 yard pass. If we are going to play him then sling balls in from all over the pitch.

[Pete3206]

I agree Mr Woo, Garde was the wrong appointment. Can anyone see Remi doing a SGT in any shape or form? He'll look like a forlorn Steve Keen type character for the first 2 months of the Championship season, before walking away with a handsome settlement.

What a shambles.

[Dante Lavelli]

At this point it seems the board very much like the summer transfers brought in someone who could well do well long term and they criminally forgot the short term issues.

I've been saying this all seaosn. We spent five years thinking short-term; now we've got a long-term plan without looking at what's under our noses.

What do you reckon the plan is?  As I can't see any discernible signs of one to be honest.

Whilst the specific personnel can be debated until the cows come home, the structure that is now in place theoretically could provide a platform to build from.  By this I mean a scouting network, a DoF (or similar) to deal with the logistics of building whatever the manager wants and a executive in Fox who appears to have autonomy.

Our fate is no-longer solely dependent on the manager's ability and hunger and the current structure could provide continuity from one manager to the next.  None of which guarantees success and - if the right people - the benefits are unlikely to manifest themselves for a few years from now.  That is long term planning imo but provides limited comfort for our immediate problems.

[Dante Lavelli]

I was definitely pro Garde' appointment and have seen promise in his post match-interviews, where he generally demonstrates an intelligence and thoughtfulness lacking in TS, however there has been no measurable improvements since he started.  I think he needs to get in a few of his own players and target a point a game from here. 

That means a total for the season of 24 points, less than that and I think his position needs to be reviewed.

[ozzjim]

Agreed Dante. I would say a minimum from here should be 25 plus points. I think he has lastly improved Veretout and Ayew since coming in. Or at least picked them! Gana was looking shaky as Sherwood left and Kmac said he looked jaded in training. Maybe the move has been too much for him or he is taking time to adapt.

Kozak we will never know but reports are that he is poor in u21 games. Lescott and Okore looked OK so I think Garde should get stuck for not sticking with them and shoehorning Richards back in.

As for bringing us back, without signing one of his own players or having any pre season to imponent his ideas how can you possibly judge.