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Author Topic: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa  (Read 942998 times)

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2355 on: January 03, 2016, 10:17:21 AM »
Everyone at the club right now is a place holder. Randy wants out. If someone paid millions to take over a failing club then if they have any nous they will be wanting to remove all the dead wood and replace with competent people. They all know this, that's part of the reason they all couldn't give a shit, it's not long term to them, just another job and one they're doing badly in.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2356 on: January 03, 2016, 10:34:41 AM »
Everyone at the club right now is a place holder. Randy wants out. If someone paid millions to take over a failing club then if they have any nous they will be wanting to remove all the dead wood and replace with competent people. They all know this, that's part of the reason they all couldn't give a shit, it's not long term to them, just another job and one they're doing badly in.

Exactly right.

In terms of a strategy, for a few years now it's been to stay in the premier league as cheaply as possible and sell up.

'Epic fail' on both counts then.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2357 on: January 03, 2016, 10:35:16 AM »
There was a guy on radio two a few weeks back promoting his book. Can't remember what he or the book were called, but basically he had written a book in conjunction with Sir Alex Ferguson about management. One point that he made crystal clear is that for any organisation to be successful you need to have clear direction right from the very top, down to the very bottom. Everyone and he said absolutely everyone at the organisation must be pulling in the same direction and the company strategy must be crystal clear to everyone, including it's customers. He mentioned how at times certain players at Man Utd didn't go along with the goal of the club and how they were sold on almost straight away. ( Beckham/Stam?)

This got me thinking about Aston Villa. Apart from the odd sound bite (Proud history/Bright future ha or We're building something special) when was the last time we actually heard from the powers that be what the current strategy is. The lack of leadership from the top has seeped through the club like a poison. I believe there is no strategy or if there is one I have missed it, which again is the whole purpose of this post. I went on a course a few years ago and the guy running the course said how many of you do a SWAT test at the start of each year. I had never heard of this acronym before, but basically it stands for Strengths, Weaknesses, Aims and Targets. So it's a new year with yet another defeat under our belt so how about the club coming out with it's own SWAT statement instead of the building something special drivel.

UTV

I agree with most of that, the exception being that the fans do not need to know the detail.  Take Man U for example, no-one knew what their mission statement was, it was never broadcast.  That aside, we do need to start to more critically analyse all aspects of the club and remove people and routines which do not serve a greater objective.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2358 on: January 03, 2016, 12:03:07 PM »
We are like a grand old cruise liner.   Bobbing aimlessly on the waves.  Waiting to be towed to a Goan beach to be cut up for scrap metal. 

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2359 on: January 03, 2016, 12:19:04 PM »
It's clear that his current team set isn't working and probably won't ever work. We are 95% relegated so he has nothing to lose.  I would retire Guzan, Richards Lescott Rudy Westwood and Sanchez.  I see these guys as the main mistake makers that constantly give the ball away and lead us to concede goals.  I buy a right back, keeper,  chopper Harris type midfielder and any striker.  Then get some disciple, team spirit and fans respect back for the last half of season. 

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2360 on: January 03, 2016, 12:43:00 PM »
Then get some disciple
Aston Villa is my religion; Villa Park is my church.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2361 on: January 03, 2016, 12:46:07 PM »
He needs to somehow harness some team spirit, we are 100% not a team this season, just a collection of individuals waiting for it to end and get the best out of it for themselves they can. There is not determination to fight for each other, the support or the clubs name. If you ever want to see mercenaries, then take a look at some of our lot. The effort, concentration, professionalism and hard work isn't there. These are basics and they aren't there and it's why we lose every week.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2362 on: January 03, 2016, 01:15:19 PM »
He needs to somehow harness some team spirit, we are 100% not a team this season, just a collection of individuals waiting for it to end and get the best out of it for themselves they can.


This is why the guy was hired ten games ago. To unite the players. you can probably see the main clique in the bad santa video.
Lerner's said on his appointment: "We recruited aggressively this past summer and it is our responsibility to now harvest this talent."
He's done nothing and is hoplessly out of his depth.

There is a slim chance we can still get out of the hole. If we swing the axe now. Moyes or Pearson.
Moyes's bug eye'd glare alone would get lung busting tracking back from Gil and Adama. Even Gestede would discover sprinting.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2363 on: January 03, 2016, 01:47:10 PM »
I think the job will be too big for anyone with just 18 games  left.  Its where do we go next season.

I think we need to get the likes of a Moyes  or Pearson in.  Remember Saunders prior to taking on wasn't exactly thought of, of someone with charisma.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2364 on: January 03, 2016, 02:11:05 PM »
I think the job will be too big for anyone with just 18 games  left.  Its where do we go next season.

I think we need to get the likes of a Moyes  or Pearson in.  Remember Saunders prior to taking on wasn't exactly thought of, of someone with charisma.

Posted in another thread, Mark Warburton would be my preferred vote.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2365 on: January 03, 2016, 03:22:04 PM »
I must admit Garde seems unable to prepare a competitive side for one game a week, let alone two. If we drop, I'd have to say he's toast unless we win seven or eight of our remaining fixtures but still get the heave-ho

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2366 on: January 03, 2016, 03:54:40 PM »
He's been dealt an impossible hand, so it's difficult to judge, given the frankly appalling situation he found himself in when he arrived. He must be exasperated with the absence of quality, typified yesterday with Gestede and his failure to make a simple pass to set Traore away to win the game.

He seems eager to freshen the squad up and it's not hard to see why. Amavi, Ayew, Veretout apart, I wouldn't care if the rest of the squad were sacked tomorrow.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2367 on: January 03, 2016, 04:03:59 PM »
There's no togetherness in the teamabout this, I would have thought Remi Garde would have fixed this by now, speaking to my daughter in Oz she's still hoping for the Miracle, as I
Expect are all the junior villians are.  I hear the argument that our young players will be ruined if played in the team, I take the opposite view if they have the ambition it's a great opportunity.



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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2368 on: January 03, 2016, 04:06:37 PM »
He's been dealt an impossible hand, so it's difficult to judge, given the frankly appalling situation he found himself in when he arrived. He must be exasperated with the absence of quality, typified yesterday with Gestede and his failure to make a simple pass to set Traore away to win the game.

He seems eager to freshen the squad up and it's not hard to see why. Amavi, Ayew, Veretout apart, I wouldn't care if the rest of the squad were sacked tomorrow.
Very good points, but this highlights a massive issue.
We really have no idea if Garde is any good or not.
Yes, the club is a basket case, and was when he came in, but his absolute failure to motivate them in any way has to lead to massive questions over his ability.
Has any new manager at any club gone waited so long for his first win after his appointment?

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2369 on: January 03, 2016, 04:19:37 PM »
Remi Garde has had long enough now to see how bad Rudy Gestede is. For the time being, I'll still keep believing in Remi Garde but if he is still playing Gestede in February, I'll be withdrawing my goodwill.

 


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