Quote from: Irish villain on December 30, 2015, 03:57:02 PMQuote from: dave shelley on December 30, 2015, 12:45:20 PMRemi Garde is adjusting to managerial life in this division as are a great deal of the players on the pitch. For that alone Garde needs to be cut a little slack. He's going to make mistakes but, as long as they're not continually repeated then we have to give the man time. It becomes a different story if he doesn't learn. See Sherwood, Tim.I agree. I actually think Garde is the most imaginative appointment that this board has made. He seems like the kind of guy who can fix things whatever division we are in. Sherwood, Lambert and McLeish allowed things to fester whereas Garde has come in and set a standard as young Jack and Gabby have learned. For what it's worth I am not sure Tim Sherwood should ever have been appointed manager of Aston Villa but that's another day's work!ps thanks for the welcome eamonn. I am only back momentarily because I cannot quite believe my eyes at the moment and needed somewhere to vent my frustration. Sad times, I never thought it could get this bad. Good to see you back Mel. Your initial post above made me realise how many awful players we have signed in the past 3-4 years.
Quote from: dave shelley on December 30, 2015, 12:45:20 PMRemi Garde is adjusting to managerial life in this division as are a great deal of the players on the pitch. For that alone Garde needs to be cut a little slack. He's going to make mistakes but, as long as they're not continually repeated then we have to give the man time. It becomes a different story if he doesn't learn. See Sherwood, Tim.I agree. I actually think Garde is the most imaginative appointment that this board has made. He seems like the kind of guy who can fix things whatever division we are in. Sherwood, Lambert and McLeish allowed things to fester whereas Garde has come in and set a standard as young Jack and Gabby have learned. For what it's worth I am not sure Tim Sherwood should ever have been appointed manager of Aston Villa but that's another day's work!ps thanks for the welcome eamonn. I am only back momentarily because I cannot quite believe my eyes at the moment and needed somewhere to vent my frustration. Sad times, I never thought it could get this bad.
Remi Garde is adjusting to managerial life in this division as are a great deal of the players on the pitch. For that alone Garde needs to be cut a little slack. He's going to make mistakes but, as long as they're not continually repeated then we have to give the man time. It becomes a different story if he doesn't learn. See Sherwood, Tim.
Houllier and McLeish were arguably more wasteful than MON in the transfer market. They landed us with such deals as Makoun (Bent kept us up so I will leave him out even though he was a badly utilised resource), N'Zogbia, Given and Hutton who was subsequently frozen out for two years before being made a key player on an improved contract! Downing, Milner and Young all went for double what we paid but the club failed to adequately replace those players. In 2009 our midfield options were Barry, Milner, Young, Petrov, NRC & Sidwell and by 2012 it was Bannan, Westwood, Holman, Delph & N'Zogbia. Sound investment?And that is the nub of the problem at villa . In every year since MON left the club has made extremely poor decisions and when selling players has failed to adequately replace them. The heart was ripped out of our team and replaced with poor players. Barring one or two exceptions (Benteke obviously, Okore and, being generous to the club, Lowton, Westwood and Bacuna) our signings have been absolutely atrocious. Wasters like N'Zogbia, flops like Makoun plus bargain basement purchases like Tonev, Bowery, Dawkins, El Ahmadi, Luna, Grant Holt, Helenius, Joe Cole, Sylla, Kieran Richardson. Gavin McCann looks like a world beater compared to some of the players who have lined up in our midfield in recent seasons.Over the last few seasons we have been well warned by the football Gods about where our approach was taking us. Yet we have blindly continued along the same path and in the summer we failed to replace Benteke's goals. We finished 17th last season with Benteke and Delph in the side. We clearly needed a big investment in that team to pull away from the relegation places. Yes, we did invest in the team but we sold its two best players. Benteke kept us up for three seasons and we replaced him with a Championship player who is only good in the air. Ayew seems to be the long awaited upgrade on Weimann/Gabby. We have failed to reach 40 points in three of the last four seasons and in none of the last four years have we matched the dizzy heights of the 42 points, eight clear of Birmingham in 18th place, achieved in the season before Randy bought the club. Failing to buy a recognised, premier league goalscorer after we sold Benteke was absolute madness but fits in with the villa we have come to know since 2010/11. The sad thing is the club's hierarchy absolutely deserves what is happening to it right now. They have been playing Russian Roulette and it has caught up with them. For the fans this has been a slow death by a thousand cuts. Yes, we have scraped survival over the last half decade but we have smashed so many unwanted records in the process. For the most part we have fielded teams lacking character & ability and have been a soft touch conceding late goals while rolling over too easily. Traditionalists like myself may not like the way football is now but sadly you either adapt or get left behind and we are being left behind. Did we ever imagine we would be envious of sides fielder by Southampton, Swansea, Leicester, Watford? Each year the list grows longer and I am not sure our team will be cut out for the battles of the Championship. Lerner's failures have left this club with a very uncertain future.
Most people seem to agree that RG hasn't got off to a good start. Some still agree with his appointment as a long term project. Yet, if he buys a few players this transfer window and there is still no real improvement in results in the second half of the season, should we stick with him? If we do, then there's a real risk of a protracted stay in the championship.If we don't, it's back to square one with a new manager who will want his own players...
I do think we need to stick with Remi Garde even we get relegated. We have to hope with 3 or 4 new players it give us the necessary quality and leadership and fight and more goals for Villa and clean sheets.
If Garde does little else this season other than sorting out the attitude of the players and lays out a plan for the future, I will be satisfied.
Quote from: old man villa fan on December 30, 2015, 09:10:12 PMIf Garde does little else this season other than sorting out the attitude of the players and lays out a plan for the future, I will be satisfied.Unfortunately that may be all that is left. We need to win some games or we will be starting pre season 2016 early.
I hope he has some money and ideas about how best to spend it to get players in who can galvanise the team in January.
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