collapse collapse

Please donate to help towards the costs of keeping this site going. Thank You.

Recent Topics

Summer 2025 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc. by N'ZMAV
[Today at 08:22:44 PM]


Season Ticket 2025/26 by VillaTim
[Today at 08:14:23 PM]


The International Cricket Thread by PaulWinch again
[Today at 08:03:13 PM]


Aston Villa Women 2025-26 by cdbearsfan
[Today at 07:51:49 PM]


FFP by cdbearsfan
[Today at 07:30:33 PM]


Villa Park Redevelopment by Pete3206
[Today at 05:19:31 PM]


Kits 25/26 by Demitri_C
[Today at 02:08:18 PM]

Follow us on...

Author Topic: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa  (Read 943069 times)

Online achilles

  • Member
  • Posts: 2497
Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2115 on: December 30, 2015, 02:26:36 PM »
People forget that according to Fox, Remi agreed that the Villa did good transfer business over the summer and Remi was perfectly happy with the signings!

Offline auntiesledd

  • Member
  • Posts: 1998
  • Age: 61
  • Location: Hoveside (via Erdington)
Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2116 on: December 30, 2015, 03:00:54 PM »
People forget that according to Fox, Remi agreed that the Villa did good transfer business over the summer and Remi was perfectly happy with the signings!

Presumably it was due to being able to have some 'bantz' with some of  'em in his native tongue...

Online ozzjim

  • Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 31002
  • Location: Here.
  • GM : 30.08.2022
Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2117 on: December 30, 2015, 03:05:28 PM »
I would imagine watching Ayew , Amavi and Veretout he was quite happy. Shame the rest of the squad is so bloody fragile.

I hope Remy doesn't become Garde' Adebayor this window. We have to look at other options too. We need more than one striker in.

Online Legion

  • Moderator
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 59456
  • Age: 54
  • Location: With my son
  • Oh, it must be! And it is! Villa in the lead!
    • Personal Education Services
  • GM : 05.04.2019
Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2118 on: December 30, 2015, 03:06:51 PM »
Loic Remy would do nicely.

Offline villa for life

  • Member
  • Posts: 1741
Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2119 on: December 30, 2015, 03:13:07 PM »
Most people seem to agree that RG hasn't got off to a good start. Some still agree with his appointment as a long term project. Yet, if he buys a few players this transfer window and there is still no real improvement in results in the second half of the season, should we stick with him?
If we do, then there's a real risk of a protracted stay in the championship.
If we don't, it's back to square one with a new manager who will want his own players...

Offline eamonn

  • Member
  • Posts: 33695
  • Location: Stay in sight of the mainland
  • GM : 26.07.2020
Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2120 on: December 30, 2015, 03:17:53 PM »
Every manager since O'Neil has had his hands tied behind his back, they don't get sympathy from me because they took it on knowing the score and they all made more money than most of us will ever see but everyone of them failed. If Garde is not backed by Lerner I hope he walks and keeps his reputation in tact for another day and another club.

Houllier and McLeish were arguably more wasteful than MON in the transfer market. They landed us with such deals as Makoun (Bent kept us up so I will leave him out even though he was a badly utilised resource), N'Zogbia, Given and Hutton who was subsequently frozen out for two years before being made a key player on an improved contract! Downing, Milner and Young all went for double what we paid but the club failed to adequately replace those players. In 2009 our midfield options were Barry, Milner, Young, Petrov, NRC & Sidwell and by 2012 it was Bannan, Westwood, Holman, Delph & N'Zogbia. Sound investment?

And that is the nub of the problem at villa . In every year since MON left the club has made extremely poor decisions and when selling players has failed to adequately replace them. The heart was ripped out of our team and replaced with poor players. Barring one or two exceptions (Benteke obviously, Okore and, being generous to the club, Lowton, Westwood and Bacuna) our signings have been absolutely atrocious. Wasters like N'Zogbia, flops like Makoun plus bargain basement purchases like Tonev, Bowery, Dawkins, El Ahmadi, Luna, Grant Holt, Helenius, Joe Cole, Sylla, Kieran Richardson. Gavin McCann looks like a world beater compared to some of the players who have lined up in our midfield in recent seasons.

Over the last few seasons we have been well warned by the football Gods about where our approach was taking us. Yet we have blindly continued along the same path and in the summer we failed to replace Benteke's goals. We finished 17th last season with Benteke and Delph in the side. We clearly needed a big investment in that team to pull away from the relegation places. Yes, we did invest in the team but we sold its two best players. Benteke kept us up for three seasons and we replaced him with a Championship player who is only good in the air. Ayew seems to be the long awaited upgrade on Weimann/Gabby.

We have failed to reach 40 points in three of the last four seasons and in none of the last four years have we matched the dizzy heights of the 42 points, eight clear of Birmingham in 18th place, achieved in the season before Randy bought the club. Failing to buy a recognised, premier league goalscorer after we sold Benteke was absolute madness but fits in with the villa we have come to know since 2010/11. The sad thing is the club's hierarchy absolutely deserves what is happening to it right now. They have been playing Russian Roulette and it has caught up with them.

For the fans this has been a slow death by a thousand cuts. Yes, we have scraped survival over the last half decade but we have smashed so many unwanted records in the process. For the most part we have fielded teams lacking character & ability and have been a soft touch conceding late goals while rolling over too easily. Traditionalists like myself may not like the way football is now but sadly you either adapt or get left behind and we are being left behind. Did we ever imagine we would be envious of sides fielder by Southampton, Swansea, Leicester, Watford? Each year the list grows longer and I am not sure our team will be cut out for the battles of the Championship. Lerner's failures have left this club with a very uncertain future. 


Good to see you back. Agreed in the main but the lack of a proven Premier League striker certainly hasn't stopped Watford from prospering. Two strikers proven only at Championship level who have maintained their form in the PL at a team that had a more turbulent summer than anyone - changing manager with a huge turnover of players. Maybe Watford are an anomaly but even for all the wrong-headed decisions we've made with strategy and recruitment - and most Villa fans seemed to be happy with our signings in the summer; by fate, luck or whatever else, we've not performed close to what we should have done.

Online ozzjim

  • Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 31002
  • Location: Here.
  • GM : 30.08.2022
Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2121 on: December 30, 2015, 03:20:08 PM »
I think you have to give him some targets. If we get more than a point a game from now until the end of the season, considering we have 25 in the calendar year, that would be enough to give him the summer to rebuild for me. Only win once and get 10 points from 19 and you will struggle to convince anyone he should stay longer. I hope he does the former as I think he has something we should put faith in and give some time too.

Online Gareth

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 7024
  • Age: 50
  • Location: Redditch
  • GM : 25.02.2026
Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2122 on: December 30, 2015, 03:37:06 PM »
What is fundamental is that come November 2016 we aren't having to change the manager again because he isn't up to a Championship campaign.  None of us know Remi or have had any dealings with him but the fact there isn't a grain of football acumen at board level makes you wonder whether it was even a consideration in the recruitment process?  Did they recruit him for a survival (ha!) attempt or was a genuine plan formulated in the event of going down?

I sincerely hope Remi is the man but he (& we) have an horrific 6/7 months ahead before we can even look at starting games on a level playing field....

A club without a plan but shrouded in boardroom arrogance & playing cowardice gets its comeuppance!
« Last Edit: December 30, 2015, 03:46:54 PM by Gareth »

Offline Toronto Villa

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 58440
  • Age: 52
  • Location: Toronto, Canada
  • GM : 23.07.2026
Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2123 on: December 30, 2015, 03:52:51 PM »
Loic Remy would do nicely.

it would be amazing what a quality goalscorer could do for the confidence of this side. Nothing more gutting than creating chances and nobody there to finish them. And at the other end nothing worse than defending well only for one player to do something stupid for it all to fall apart. Especially if that player is the goalkeeper. Get a forward and a competent goalkeeper in it will help build confidence quickly.

Offline garyshawsknee

  • Member
  • Posts: 5899
  • Location: Hove via Brighton, via Luton
  • GM : 03.06.2020
Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2124 on: December 30, 2015, 03:54:15 PM »
I could see him working well with Ayew. Shame it's come too late for us.

Offline Irish villain

  • Member
  • Posts: 8526
  • Age: 39
Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2125 on: December 30, 2015, 03:57:02 PM »
Remi Garde is adjusting to managerial life in this division as are a great deal of the players on the pitch.  For that alone Garde needs to be cut a little slack.  He's going to make mistakes but, as long as they're not continually repeated then we have to give the man time.  It becomes a different story if he doesn't learn.  See Sherwood, Tim.

I agree. I actually think Garde is the most imaginative appointment that this board has made. He seems like the kind of guy who can fix things whatever division we are in. Sherwood, Lambert and McLeish allowed things to fester whereas Garde has come in and set a standard as young Jack and Gabby have learned. For what it's worth I am not sure Tim Sherwood should ever have been appointed manager of Aston Villa but that's another day's work!

ps thanks for the welcome eamonn. I am only back momentarily because I cannot quite believe my eyes at the moment and needed somewhere to vent my frustration. Sad times, I never thought it could get this bad.
« Last Edit: December 30, 2015, 03:58:43 PM by Irish villain »

Offline auntiesledd

  • Member
  • Posts: 1998
  • Age: 61
  • Location: Hoveside (via Erdington)
Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2126 on: December 30, 2015, 03:59:34 PM »
Loic Remy would do nicely.

According to TalkShite, Hiddink doesn't want any Chelski players going out during the window.

Edit: They've now updated their earlier slice of 'news' and said Hiddink wants to keep both Remy & Fabrigas for (presumably) the rest of the season.
« Last Edit: December 30, 2015, 04:07:36 PM by auntiesledd »

Offline Pat McMahon

  • Member
  • Posts: 7223
  • Location: Shanghai - Blarney Stone for Villa games
Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2127 on: December 30, 2015, 04:22:02 PM »
Remi Garde is adjusting to managerial life in this division as are a great deal of the players on the pitch.  For that alone Garde needs to be cut a little slack.  He's going to make mistakes but, as long as they're not continually repeated then we have to give the man time.  It becomes a different story if he doesn't learn.  See Sherwood, Tim.

I agree. I actually think Garde is the most imaginative appointment that this board has made. He seems like the kind of guy who can fix things whatever division we are in. Sherwood, Lambert and McLeish allowed things to fester whereas Garde has come in and set a standard as young Jack and Gabby have learned. For what it's worth I am not sure Tim Sherwood should ever have been appointed manager of Aston Villa but that's another day's work!

ps thanks for the welcome eamonn. I am only back momentarily because I cannot quite believe my eyes at the moment and needed somewhere to vent my frustration. Sad times, I never thought it could get this bad.

Good to see you back Mel. Your initial post above made me realise how many awful players we have signed in the past 3-4 years.

Offline LTA

  • Member
  • Posts: 1181
  • Age: 42
  • Location: Stourbridge
Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2128 on: December 30, 2015, 06:09:06 PM »
People forget that according to Fox, Remi agreed that the Villa did good transfer business over the summer and Remi was perfectly happy with the signings!

Yes man.

Offline Nastylee

  • Member
  • Posts: 2322
  • Location: A village in Worcs
Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #2129 on: December 30, 2015, 06:11:10 PM »
If Remy did become available I would imagine there would be a number of clubs in for him and none of them would be as shit as us.

 


SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal