Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[tomd2103]

I will say that Gil, Grealish and Traore don't help make themselves selectable through their lack of willingness to track back. If they were prepared to work harder at that I'm sure they'd get a chance. When you've got a team that has such a dreadful defence, then you need your forward players to work bloody hard to support them.

Yeah but without them the defence is still shockingly shit and we have little creativity up front to make things happen
At some point you have to be more positive because we are incapable of defending no matter what the back line is

Agree John.  Basing selection on what people can't do over what they can offer seems a negative mindset to begin with.  I would rather we found a way to accommodate the attacking flair players like Gil and Traore even if they don't offer a lot in defence.

[LeeB]

I will say that Gil, Grealish and Traore don't help make themselves selectable through their lack of willingness to track back. If they were prepared to work harder at that I'm sure they'd get a chance. When you've got a team that has such a dreadful defence, then you need your forward players to work bloody hard to support them.

Yeah but without them the defence is still shockingly shit and we have little creativity up front to make things happen
At some point you have to be more positive because we are incapable of defending no matter what the back line is

They collectively do not understand that with their role comes responsibility. I think he's making that point to them, that you don't get the shirt if you don't work for it.

The problem is their hard working replacements are shite, so it's a hard message to enforce.

I do think however it's a very important issue to address, if we're ever to realise their potential, and lift the fug of ineptitude that envelopes us.

[Neil Hawkes]

If RG had to pick a team out of the available players that are prepared to follow his instructions, not commit naïve mistakes, (although why naïve with all their experience, let's go for incompetence) and actually make a team effort - we would be fielding around 6 players per game, without a goalkeeper.
Bear that in mind when you blame his team selections, he's got bugger all to work with for a starting 11, never mind alternative/substitute selections.
I will only judge him when he has 11 of his own players to choose from.

[aj2k77]

It's ok defending Remi but yesterday he fucked up, no one will have looked at that starting line up and thought there was any other outcome than a defeat.

We are going down, it's 100% certain, so let's just forget playing Richardson, Hutton, Bacuna, Westwood and try blooding some younger players or finding a formation that actually works for us.

It can't get any worse, we lose all the time, barely ever score, are dull to watch and make basic errors like 10 year olds. I'm all for trying some younger players now. We gain nothing from carrying on the status quo so he needs to grow some balls and give it a go now. The only thing worse than losing every week is losing every week with the same players and mistakes for me.

[Jimbo]

I not sure some people fully understand what a dysfunctional squad and club Garde has walked into. We're in an awful mess, but very little of it is of Garde's making. We've had five years of this utter crap, let's not be blaming the last bloke to walk through the door.

[David_Nab]

The play the youngsters argument issue is you risk destroying them by bringing them into a losing team.Certainly it's not helped Grealish has it.Also not sure what youngsters we have who are up to it anyway.Sellers and Rushdan-Murphy maybe ,Lydon is already making the bench.

[aj2k77]

I not sure some people fully understand what a dysfunctional squad and club Garde has walked into. We're in an awful mess, but very little of it is of Garde's making. We've had five years of this utter crap, let's not be blaming the last bloke to walk through the door.

I disagree, we've all unfortunately watched the shambles of Aston Villa getting routinely beaten the last 5 years, making dud appointment after dud appointment. What people are struggling to understand is why any manager worth his salt persists with finding a space for donkeys like Richardson and Bacuna.

[aj2k77]

The play the youngsters argument issue is you risk destroying them by bringing them into a losing team.Certainly it's not helped Grealish has it.Also not sure what youngsters we have who are up to it anyway.Sellers and Rushdan-Murphy maybe ,Lydon is already making the bench.

I think what hasn't helped Grealish is he doesn't have the right attitude at the moment, agree that's it's a risk playing youngsters but one I'd take over watching these donkeys lose every week, I think the fans would get behind them. As for not knowing what youngsters we have with any talent, the only way to find out is to play them.

[andyh]

Bacuna, Westwood, Richardson, Clark, Sinclair (and even Richards), all players involved in the early games of the season and responsible for getting us into this position.
All recalled and/or involved in yesterdays disgrace.

Hasn't Remi learned that these offer nothing to the team ? 

[aj2k77]

Scott Sinclair is baffling, he actually does nothing on the pitch, so what is the point. It's laziness keep picking these guys on name alone. I can't accept we don't have anything better, because we aren't even trying, he does nothing on the pitch so what is worse than nothing?

[andyh]

Excluding Kozak is bordering on negligence.
Even N'zobia has been given a game and a chance. 

[RussellC]

I understand the requirement for the wide-players to track-back in support of the full-backs, and agree that this is a weakness of all 3 players in question, but given the players at our disposal surely Garde would be better off not tasking our 2 full-backs with being our main attacking outlets and employing 2 holding midfielders, to allow 3 attacking players less responsibility and to be able to concentrate on actually hurting the opposition? Task them with pressing higher-up the pitch but then concentrate on steadying the defensive shape as it is, and maybe we wont concede so many goals from counter-attacks?

[achilles]

I've got to say though, he made a right mess of that defensive line up yesterday. Okore, fair enough but i'd have left Lescott in and kept Bacuna at left back and just brought Richards in. Changing three out of the back four was just asking for trouble and at times they looked like a defence that hadn't played together before.

Yesterday was fully on him in my opinion. He deserves criticism for it but there needs to be perspective.  Goes with an insane line up at Sunderland and he will deserve sick again.

Because of their long standing knee issues, Okore and Lescott obviously cannot play two games in the space of 48 hours, so what was he supposed to do? Play them both and fuck their knees up for the next month or two? Bacuna could've stayed left back maybe, but would it have mattered?

Regarding Lescott, then why buy him in the first place?

[Jimbo]

I not sure some people fully understand what a dysfunctional squad and club Garde has walked into. We're in an awful mess, but very little of it is of Garde's making. We've had five years of this utter crap, let's not be blaming the last bloke to walk through the door.

I disagree, we've all unfortunately watched the shambles of Aston Villa getting routinely beaten the last 5 years, making dud appointment after dud appointment. What people are struggling to understand is why any manager worth his salt persists with finding a space for donkeys like Richardson and Bacuna.

When we're confirmed as relegated in a month or so, and we mix things up because there's nothing left to play for, we'll see how good or bad the alternatives are. Shit runs through this squad like the writing in a stick of rock.

[RussellC]

It's all very well saying that "we can only judge Garde once he's working with 11 of his own players" but then what was the point in sacking Sherwood so soon? Surely the idea was to bring in a Manager/Coach who could instantly improve performances and results with the players at his disposal? Garde's done neither.  I think even Tony Blair would struggle to justify the outlay on sacking yet another Managerial Team given what we've seen post-Sherwood and I have little faith that he'll be able to anything in January to even remotely improve us.