Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[oswald funkletrumpet]

I still maintain that Garde was just try to eek out what he could with the utter garbage he's been given. He's made mistakes, but give him a chance to get some players in before judging him.

4 points from 8 games would get him the sack at some clubs

now we are down i expect to see some changes and him to show some courage and balls and at least mix things up a bit and at least look like he wants to actually win a game

[Chris Smith]

I still maintain that Garde was just try to eek out what he could with the utter garbage he's been given. He's made mistakes, but give him a chance to get some players in before judging him.

I agree. Even amid the ultimate shambles of yesterday we played some decent stuff before the customary comedy fuck up for the goal. I am holding on to the idea that when he has players available that can be trusted we will see an improvement even though in all likelihood it will be too late for this season.

[john e]

I still maintain that Garde was just try to eek out what he could with the utter garbage he's been given. He's made mistakes, but give him a chance to get some players in before judging him.

I agree. Even amid the ultimate shambles of yesterday we played some decent stuff before the customary comedy fuck up for the goal. I am holding on to the idea that when he has players available that can be trusted we will see an improvement even though in all likelihood it will be too late for this season.

Is that any different to Sherwood though,
The best football we have played all season was the first hour against Leicester

[oswald funkletrumpet]

no different

[tomd2103]

what worries me most about garde is that in 8 games we havent had any new manager bounce.

overly cautious, unwilling to change things until its too late and the players still making the same shit mistakes and a complete lack of confidence and leadership.

nothing has changed since sherwood

I also thought he would tighten us up at the back, but some of the goals we have conceded in recent games have been awful.  Case in point - the first goal yesterday - ball comes into the box, Clark was where Richards should have been, Richards was where Clark should have been, Bacuna for some unknown reason was between the two of them and the lad who scored was where Bacuna should have been.  That is exactly the kind I would have hoped they would be constantly working on in training, yet we still look as disorganised as ever. 

[PaulWinch again]

I still maintain that Garde was just try to eek out what he could with the utter garbage he's been given. He's made mistakes, but give him a chance to get some players in before judging him.

4 points from 8 games would get him the sack at some clubs

now we are down i expect to see some changes and him to show some courage and balls and at least mix things up a bit and at least look like he wants to actually win a game

Well that just shows how stupid football is doesn't it? The team has played some reasonable stuff under him, but he has been let down by terrible mistakes by individuals up both ends of the pitch. I'm not really sure what he's supposed to do when all of his full back choices are terrible, his best two centre halves weren't fit to play and his only defensive midfielder was injured. I appreciate that the fans want to see us go for it, but there's got to be a balance. If we chucked Grealish, Gil and Adama all on at the start and lost 6-2 to Norwich I doubt we'd have been happy.

We have an absolutely diabolical squad, one of the worst I've ever seen. It's only some of the players we signed last summer, Okore, Gil and maybe Grealish who have anything about them. There isn't a manager in the world who could turn this lot around without an almost complete overhaul. Garde was known as an attacking manager, so I'm sure he's not thrilled to be doing this either.

[ozzjim]

8 games worth a poor squad. Some encouraging signs in parts and not one player of his own choice.  Some people are even more fickle than me.  Give him some time and a decent chance!!

[VillaAlways]

If there isn't an improvement at all following his own aquisitions in January  he won't make it to the end of the season and he shouldn't do

[ozzjim]

what worries me most about garde is that in 8 games we havent had any new manager bounce.

overly cautious, unwilling to change things until its too late and the players still making the same shit mistakes and a complete lack of confidence and leadership.

nothing has changed since sherwood

I also thought he would tighten us up at the back, but some of the goals we have conceded in recent games have been awful.  Case in point - the first goal yesterday - ball comes into the box, Clark was where Richards should have been, Richards was where Clark should have been, Bacuna for some unknown reason was between the two of them and the lad who scored was where Bacuna should have been.  That is exactly the kind I would have hoped they would be constantly working on in training, yet we still look as disorganised as ever. 

Not helped by Lescott and Okore being unable to play twice in 3 days.  Hopefully he will learn Richards and Clark are just as much a liability as the full backs.

[PaulWinch again]

8 games worth a poor squad. Some encouraging signs in parts and not one player of his own choice.  Some people are even more fickle than me.  Give him some time and a decent chance!!

I was going to say it's absolutely insane. It's 8 games with a squad I think everyone agrees is absolutely awful. The guy deserves some time, he's dealing with a legacy of neglect. He's already identified time wasters like Gabby and N'Zog, which we've been wanting a manager to do for ages. Let's face we've been going down for years, it's just this year that it'll finally be confirmed. This manager deserves a proper chance to do something to turn it round. We have played well at numerous times since he took over, but we've lost because individuals keep making the same terrible mistakes. There's no a manager in the world who could stop Guzan dropping the ball in the net, or stop Clark from failing to compete for headers or stop Gestede from missing sitters. He had a decent centre half partnership in Okore and Lescott, but injury and age put paid to that.

[VillaAlways]

8 games worth a poor squad. Some encouraging signs in parts and not one player of his own choice.  Some people are even more fickle than me.  Give him some time and a decent chance!!

I was going to say it's absolutely insane. It's 8 games with a squad I think everyone agrees is absolutely awful. The guy deserves some time, he's dealing with a legacy of neglect. He's already identified time wasters like Gabby and N'Zog, which we've been wanting a manager to do for ages. Let's face we've been going down for years, it's just this year that it'll finally be confirmed. This manager deserves a proper chance to do something to turn it round. We have played well at numerous times since he took over, but we've lost because individuals keep making the same terrible mistakes. There's no a manager in the world who could stop Guzan dropping the ball in the net, or stop Clark from failing to compete for headers or stop Gestede from missing sitters. He had a decent centre half partnership in Okore and Lescott, but injury and age put paid to that.

If we go to the end of the season without winning another game which looks entirely possible I don't see how he could remain, the fans would have completely turned by then too.

[tomd2103]

what worries me most about garde is that in 8 games we havent had any new manager bounce.

overly cautious, unwilling to change things until its too late and the players still making the same shit mistakes and a complete lack of confidence and leadership.

nothing has changed since sherwood

I also thought he would tighten us up at the back, but some of the goals we have conceded in recent games have been awful.  Case in point - the first goal yesterday - ball comes into the box, Clark was where Richards should have been, Richards was where Clark should have been, Bacuna for some unknown reason was between the two of them and the lad who scored was where Bacuna should have been.  That is exactly the kind I would have hoped they would be constantly working on in training, yet we still look as disorganised as ever. 

Not helped by Lescott and Okore being unable to play twice in 3 days.  Hopefully he will learn Richards and Clark are just as much a liability as the full backs.

Does not bode well for life in the Championship then, where the schedule tends to be Saturday then Tuesday games for a lot of the season. 

[Ormy Droid]

The criticism of Garde has been harsh bordering on the ridiculous. And the people calling him a coward yesterday, well I hope it was said in anger and frustration, rather than an actual informed opinion.

The team he put out yesterday does seem bizarre, unless you put in the context. Some players were injured (Sanchez), some just couldn't play 2 games in 48 hours (Lescott, Okore). What options did Remi have in defence? Not much obviously, don't you think he would play Crespo, Illori if they were any good? There's a reason we've recalled two on loan left backs.

The whole Gil-Grealish-Traore thing's pretty obvious too, if you put our defence into the context. We're so bad at giving away goals (yesterday being yet another prime example, though the Everton result is the one that did it for the manager) that Garde does not trust them to either keep hold of the ball for any length of time, or track back, work hard etc. to protect what is without doubt the worst defence in Christendom.

So,  you're Remi Garde. You've inherited a squad of players, who can't score goals, don't create many chances, can't keep hold of possession, are vulnerable to the counter attack, have no confidence, aren't particularly fit, some of them aren't even interested in playing football. What do you do? How can you win football games if you're shipping easy goals, and only occasionally look like scoring?...Pack your midfield with people who will at least help protect your this shit defence of yours, hope to nick a win somewhere, somehow and slowly build confidence, add some of your own players in January, stamp your authority over the malcontents, maybe even mount a proper relegation fight in the second half of the season

Has it worked out? Obviously not, and I understand people wanting Traore to come on earlier/start when Sinclair offers absolutely nothing going forward, but to call Garde a coward? Well that's just bloody stupid that is.

[saunders_heroes]

8 games worth a poor squad. Some encouraging signs in parts and not one player of his own choice.  Some people are even more fickle than me.  Give him some time and a decent chance!!

Boy have Villa fans been patient these last 5 years.
Trouble is, Garde has had zero impact so far. Even Sherwood for all his faults gave us a new manager lift. Garde though, absolutely nothing.

[Clark W Griswold]

what worries me most about garde is that in 8 games we havent had any new manager bounce.

overly cautious, unwilling to change things until its too late and the players still making the same shit mistakes and a complete lack of confidence and leadership.

nothing has changed since sherwood

I also thought he would tighten us up at the back, but some of the goals we have conceded in recent games have been awful.  Case in point - the first goal yesterday - ball comes into the box, Clark was where Richards should have been, Richards was where Clark should have been, Bacuna for some unknown reason was between the two of them and the lad who scored was where Bacuna should have been.  That is exactly the kind I would have hoped they would be constantly working on in training, yet we still look as disorganised as ever. 

Not helped by Lescott and Okore being unable to play twice in 3 days.  Hopefully he will learn Richards and Clark are just as much a liability as the full backs.

They were starting to look reasonably good together. I think with Richards right back and Amavi left back that might actually be an OK defence and a bloody good defence in the championship if by some miracle they all stay, and stay fit.