Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[sickbeggar]

He's doomed really. no matter what credit he has in the bank from the fans for taking over this shambles, he not making any visable improvement. Well that's harsh, a bit of one at times, but not enough to put any more points on the board. We're down and he'll be tainted by being on the bridge when we went down, even though the last few captain's pointed it at the icebergs and the owners didn't reinforce the hull or put enough lifeboats on to save money. He's the 2015 version of Billy McNeill showing the same bad timing coming aboard, and will suffer the same fate.

[ROBBO]

I think we all got it badly wrong thinking the squad was better than it is. Ayew has been a find but most of the rest are plodders. As I've said elsewhere we've had a succession of failed managers but they all can't be that bad surely. Get the right manager in and we'll be fine we thought, now I think it didn't matter who came in the squad has too many poor players and that's the problem.

[curiousorange]

I think he has a cut-off point in his mind where he knows we're gone. If I had to guess, I'd say what Garde is doing is preferring the artisan over the artist to try and grind out results to tide us over until January, and there will be a certain amount of games where he will know if we have a chance. After that, I'd like to think he'll say 'fuck it' and use the players he'll start the Championship with.

[PaulWinch again]

I think we all got it badly wrong thinking the squad was better than it is. Ayew has been a find but most of the rest are plodders. As I've said elsewhere we've had a succession of failed managers but they all can't be that bad surely. Get the right manager in and we'll be fine we thought, now I think it didn't matter who came in the squad has too many poor players and that's the problem.

The players are the problem. I think Okore, Gana, Veretout, Lescott, Sanchez, Ayew, Amavi and Adama have all shown enough at some stage to show they're worth persevering with. The problem is that the rest of the players are so far below what is required that those few decent players can't drag the team up. Assuming we're going down we need to take this opportunity to purge the club of these players who have consistently failed under numerous managers.

[VinnieChase84]

It's on record that we had a team meeting pre Newcastle To set a points target from the next 4 games.
I think a minimum of 6 would have been set. Looking likely to be 1/3 achieved. Pathetic

[curiousorange]

I think it's notable that the top four (the normal one rather than the adrenalin fuelled Leicester one) use defenders who can actually play football rather than rely on blood and thunder blocking to get their side out of trouble.

[pauliewalnuts]

Good enough:

Amavi
Grealish
Gil
Adama
Veretout
Ayew

Have it within them to be good enough but don't show it:

Richards
Gueye
Sinclair
Okore
Guzan
Sanchez

Not good enough and never will be:

Bacuna
Richardson
Westwood
Cole
Senderos
Gestede
Clark
Lescott
Hutton
Baker

Absolutely no fucking idea:

Ilori
Crespo

The problem with the above is that only one of the "clearly good enough" players is a defender, and he's out for the season.

The principle thing which did for us today was the fact that we are piss easy to score against. We are just so utterly feeble.

Norwich are shit and beat us at a canter.

[Monty]

Good enough:

Amavi
Grealish
Gil
Adama
Veretout
Ayew

Have it within them to be good enough but don't show it:

Richards
Gueye
Sinclair
Okore
Guzan
Sanchez

Not good enough and never will be:

Bacuna
Richardson
Westwood
Cole
Senderos
Gestede
Clark
Lescott
Hutton
Baker

Absolutely no fucking idea:

Ilori
Crespo

I don't disagree with a syllable of this.

[curiousorange]

Kozak - could be ace, could be finished. Could be dead.

[saunders_heroes]

From what I've seen of Crespo I wouldn't put him in a pub team.

[curiousorange]

From what I've seen of Crespo I wouldn't put him in a pub team.

"Sounds a bit overqualified to me."

[pauliewalnuts]

Good point re Kozak.

[john e]

I imagine you need a big pair of balls to get a team out of the championship which Garde hasn't got

[SoccerHQ]

I think the problem we'll have next year is what a scrap the championship will be. If you think players like Gil and Veretout are lightweight and need time on the ball to shine in the prem, you ain't seen nothing yet.

We need players who can roll their sleeves up and scrap and then the flair players can shine if they're still here of course.

[Dave]

We need players who can roll their sleeves up and scrap and then the flair players can shine if they're still here of course.

Bournemouth didn't win the league playing like that last season.