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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1710 on: December 22, 2015, 08:12:52 PM »
Fitness has been a problem since O Neill left and even Houllier thought he'd inherited a group of hopeless wheezing lardasses, but to be fair we always had good stamina under O Neill (to a point) before he inevitably ground the first 14 players he always used by March.

Any club that lets Gabby get away with the shape he's in, has problems.

I also think we've had issues with our medical team given our injury record in the last 5 years. That has to change too.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1711 on: December 22, 2015, 08:22:55 PM »
It is something that has struck me this season with every visiting team (apart from Sunderland, can't comment, missed that. Cricket). Every man jack of them has looked like an athlete, whereas our lot look like, well, footballers. Sterling being the epitome, but even Swansea looked fookin enormous.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1712 on: December 22, 2015, 08:31:15 PM »
I do think the last couple of games though we are starring to looking fitter.  Look at Veretout and Ayer at the end of the last 2 still running their backsides off. I think they look a bit fitter. Last time we had Duvernr around the side looked very fit come April time. 

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1713 on: December 22, 2015, 08:47:57 PM »
Seeing as what I said was so controversial, am I right to assume you guys are happy with Garde "drawing" our way to relegation? All I want from us is to show some fight, one substitution away at a shit Newcastle team is ridiculous.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1714 on: December 22, 2015, 08:56:26 PM »
Seeing as what I said was so controversial, am I right to assume you guys are happy with Garde "drawing" our way to relegation? All I want from us is to show some fight, one substitution away at a shit Newcastle team is ridiculous.

No, what you said was confusing. But for your peace of mind, I thought that going away to a team several points better than us who'd just won two n the bounce was just about right.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1715 on: December 22, 2015, 09:12:43 PM »
Not suprised to hear this.  What on earth were Sherwood and Wilkins playing at in the Summer?
Wilkins sat in the canteen at BMH eating pies while Sherwood chased the girls in the office back at VP. That's what they like doing.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1716 on: December 22, 2015, 09:13:33 PM »
Seeing as what I said was so controversial, am I right to assume you guys are happy with Garde "drawing" our way to relegation? All I want from us is to show some fight, one substitution away at a shit Newcastle team is ridiculous.

No, what you said was confusing. But for your peace of mind, I thought that going away to a team several points better than us who'd just won two n the bounce was just about right.

I agree. We needed to win obviously but that second half performance was full of fight and encouragement. If we keep playing like that then the wins will come.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1717 on: December 22, 2015, 09:14:28 PM »
Seeing as what I said was so controversial, am I right to assume you guys are happy with Garde "drawing" our way to relegation? All I want from us is to show some fight, one substitution away at a shit Newcastle team is ridiculous.
Yes we are all delighted at the prospect of 21 more draws and second division football next season.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1718 on: December 22, 2015, 09:27:05 PM »
Seeing as what I said was so controversial, am I right to assume you guys are happy with Garde "drawing" our way to relegation? All I want from us is to show some fight, one substitution away at a shit Newcastle team is ridiculous.

What you said wasn't controversial, it was senseless and without meaning, which is why some people took the piss a bit, pisstaking being the one thing that we're consistently good at on here.

Surely breaking the cycle of getting our arses handed to us every week must be the first step towards any kind of recovery.

For what it's worth, can you imagine the mood if he'd "really gone for it" in the last 10-15 minutes and we'd lost, losing being what we've become world renowned for lately?

I'm assuming going for it would have meant bringing Traoré onto a pitch that was in way conducive to someone dribbling and running with the ball the way he does?


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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1719 on: December 22, 2015, 09:31:25 PM »
Seeing as what I said was so controversial, am I right to assume you guys are happy with Garde "drawing" our way to relegation? All I want from us is to show some fight, one substitution away at a shit Newcastle team is ridiculous.

Having worked hard to get back into the game, he probably did not want to risk throwing the hard work away (and confidence) by going more on attack as happened at Leicester.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1720 on: December 22, 2015, 09:48:30 PM »
I said this somewhere else, but I really think we will end the season strongly but we will just run out of games. We'll be relegated but Garde will have put his stamp on things. We will feel like the new season, albeit in the Championship, cannot start quickly enough because we will be playing some good football. Everyone will be hoping we can hang on to all of the players that started to show the form that we had hoped to see from them all season. We will maintain our vitriol at Sherwood for being a fucking dick and not having faith in them from the start, not persevering and chopping and changing every few minutes. Oh and for Leicester, the fucking idiot.

This is why we need to hang on to Garde. Because as much as he isn't getting the results now, he will. And he'll root out the shit that has held us back all these years. The Gabby's and N'Zogbia's of the world. He'll get his two new coaches and we will go from strength to strength and come straight back up stronger than we have been in many a year. Relegation though absolutely shit will be a cleansing and we can return to the PL leaner and stronger. Many of the kids will have come through and we will have players who actually want to be at the club. We will come back a better Aston Villa than the shambles we have seen the past few years.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2015, 09:56:27 PM by Toronto Villa »

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1721 on: December 22, 2015, 09:52:56 PM »
I said this somewhere else, but I really think we will end the season strongly but we will just run out of games. We'll be relegated but Garde will have out his stamp on things. We will feel like the new season, albeit in the Championship, cannot start quickly enough because we will be playing some good football. Everyone will be hoping we can hang on to all of the players that started to show the form that we had hoped to see from them all season. We will maintain our vitriol at Sherwood for being a fucking dick and not having faith in them from the start, not persevering and chopping and changing every few minutes. Oh and for Leicester, the fucking idiot.

This is why we need to hang on to Garde. Because as much as he isn't getting the results now, he will. And he'll root out the shit that has held us back all these years. The Gabby's and N'Zogbia's of the world. He'll get his two new coaches and we will go from strength to strength and come straight back up stronger than we have been in many a year. Relegation though absolutely shit will be a cleansing and we can return to the PL leaner and stronger. Many of the kids will have come through and we will have players who actually want to be at the club. We will come back a better Aston Villa than the shambles we have seen the past few years.

Well said Toronto

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1722 on: December 22, 2015, 10:01:05 PM »
I said this somewhere else, but I really think we will end the season strongly but we will just run out of games. We'll be relegated but Garde will have out his stamp on things. We will feel like the new season, albeit in the Championship, cannot start quickly enough because we will be playing some good football. Everyone will be hoping we can hang on to all of the players that started to show the form that we had hoped to see from them all season. We will maintain our vitriol at Sherwood for being a fucking dick and not having faith in them from the start, not persevering and chopping and changing every few minutes. Oh and for Leicester, the fucking idiot.

This is why we need to hang on to Garde. Because as much as he isn't getting the results now, he will. And he'll root out the shit that has held us back all these years. The Gabby's and N'Zogbia's of the world. He'll get his two new coaches and we will go from strength to strength and come straight back up stronger than we have been in many a year. Relegation though absolutely shit will be a cleansing and we can return to the PL leaner and stronger. Many of the kids will have come through and we will have players who actually want to be at the club. We will come back a better Aston Villa than the shambles we have seen the past few years.

Agree with a lot of that.  Obviously I would rather us do that without going down, but a successful campaign in the Championship might be just what is required to install some confidence in the players (of course we run the risk of it not working out like that though).

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1723 on: December 22, 2015, 10:52:17 PM »
Seeing as what I said was so controversial, am I right to assume you guys are happy with Garde "drawing" our way to relegation? All I want from us is to show some fight, one substitution away at a shit Newcastle team is ridiculous.

What you said wasn't controversial, it was senseless and without meaning, which is why some people took the piss a bit, pisstaking being the one thing that we're consistently good at on here.

Surely breaking the cycle of getting our arses handed to us every week must be the first step towards any kind of recovery.

For what it's worth, can you imagine the mood if he'd "really gone for it" in the last 10-15 minutes and we'd lost, losing being what we've become world renowned for lately?

I'm assuming going for it would have meant bringing Traoré onto a pitch that was in way conducive to someone dribbling and running with the ball the way he does?

Not really. Its a bit of a boys club on here with some big egos and I'm fine with that, but it's happened multiple times now. Maybe I shouldn't take it so personally.

We broke the cycle against Man City, lost our next two. Broke the cycle against Southampton, lost our next game. We need to start winning before it's too late!

Can you imagine the mood if De Jong and/or Wijnaldum converted those easy chances?

I wouldn't have brought Adama on. Gil in the #10 position was (and always is) my preference.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1724 on: December 22, 2015, 11:00:26 PM »
Seeing as what I said was so controversial, am I right to assume you guys are happy with Garde "drawing" our way to relegation? All I want from us is to show some fight, one substitution away at a shit Newcastle team is ridiculous.

What you said wasn't controversial, it was senseless and without meaning, which is why some people took the piss a bit, pisstaking being the one thing that we're consistently good at on here.

Surely breaking the cycle of getting our arses handed to us every week must be the first step towards any kind of recovery.

For what it's worth, can you imagine the mood if he'd "really gone for it" in the last 10-15 minutes and we'd lost, losing being what we've become world renowned for lately?

I'm assuming going for it would have meant bringing Traoré onto a pitch that was in way conducive to someone dribbling and running with the ball the way he does?

Not really. Its a bit of a boys club on here with some big egos and I'm fine with that, but it's happened multiple times now. Maybe I shouldn't take it so personally.

We broke the cycle against Man City, lost our next two. Broke the cycle against Southampton, lost our next game. We need to start winning before it's too late!

Can you imagine the mood if De Jong and/or Wijnaldum converted those easy chances?

I wouldn't have brought Adama on. Gil in the #10 position was (and always is) my preference.
I don't think we're not going out their not trying to win. Granted people bring up the De Jong miss but it's not like we didn't create chances in the second half. It wouldn't have entirely been deserved but we could have won the game. Rudy had a couple of half decent chances.

I agree though, we do need to build on the draw. Win at West Ham (and we will try to win) and we then have two games we could conceivably win if we begin building some momentum, but of course we have to deliver on that.

I don't think there's many managers we could have got who would be doing any better or making us look any more likely of winning right now. You deal with what's at your disposal and sadly our defence is wretched and attack toothless. We could be gung ho and be getting pelted 3/4-0 every week and be absolutely ground down. Take the Arsenal result away which is an absolute non shocker, and we've picked up two decent away points. We need to build on that.

 


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