Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[Risso]

If he's going to play Gestede, we need a combination of long balls and crosses, all game long. Put Gueye and Veretout in the middle, with two of Gil/Grealish/N'Zogbia/Sinclair out wide, and then just pump the ball into the box. It wouldn't be pretty, but would give us a better chance of actually scoring some goals. Starting with a midfield three with the likes of Westwood is utterly pointless.

[AVH87]

If he's going to play Gestede, we need a combination of long balls and crosses, all game long. Put Gueye and Veretout in the middle, with two of Gil/Grealish/N'Zogbia/Sinclair out wide, and then just pump the ball into the box. It wouldn't be pretty, but would give us a better chance of actually scoring some goals. Starting with a midfield three with the likes of Westwood is utterly pointless.

This is why we'd have had more chance staying up with Big Sam or similar. He'd have had Gestede as the first name on his team sheet, played direct and got a couple of attacking midfielders feeding off him. Wouldn't have been pretty to watch, but neither is relegation. I am also a fan of Garde, although I don't think the timing of appointing him was right. What we have to do now is of course stick with him and hope he can bring us back up next season with his more measured, thoughtful approach.

[BoskoDjembaSalifou]

How can you faith in someone long term that you want fired today? You have to laugh.

Totally misunderstood my post. Not surprised coming from you

I'll probably receive criticism for this because "OMG you're writing him off after 6 games!!!!11 give him the chair!!!!!", but I'd be tempted to sack him and appoint someone who wants to have a go. The line up and subsequent non-substitutions yesterday were a disgrace, would we have made any changes had De Jong scored, I wonder?

A bit negative, so I want to point out that I like Garde and have faith in him long term, but I'm just so pissed off that we seem to be accepting relegation. Why can't we start throwing some punches? We might end up getting knocked out, but it's worth losing on points with a bit of pride.

Maybe I'm overreacting a bit. Like I said, I like the guy, but drawing games isn't gonna keep us up

He has to build a base of confidence that will survive losing a couple of games. He may not have enough time to save us, but it's the only way we can potentially win enough games to stay up. Sacking him would be the worst possible decision they could make.

I get the whole confidence thing, but if we can't have a go at a shit team like Newcastle, who can we have a go at?

[oldhill_avfc]

I understand too that you have to stop the rot and build confidence.

But, I'd much rather us have a go, in the form of trying something different, rather than fading away as will be inevitable with the odd surprise result from time to time) which suggests hope.

He's got to grasp the nettle and change the tactics and style of play, then build confidence that a new approach that will yield results in time.

 Playing the same way with the same crap players will yield the same crap results with or without confidence.

[joe_c]

PWS I hope your right but every other team will be after our scalp.

I'm sure the same was the case with Newcastle. They lost four games.

[Risso]

I think it's impossible to say how we'll do in the Championship next season.  We could indeed stroll to promotion, but there's just as much chance we could be mid-table nobodies, or even suffer a second straight relegation.  I just have no confidence in Lerner at all, and since Tom Fox was hired, the bad decisions seem to have increased, not decreased, and I fear that the fall in income, and general malaise around the place would just get worse.

[glasses]

How can you faith in someone long term that you want fired today? You have to laugh.

Totally misunderstood my post. Not surprised coming from you

I'll probably receive criticism for this because "OMG you're writing him off after 6 games!!!!11 give him the chair!!!!!", but I'd be tempted to sack him and appoint someone who wants to have a go. The line up and subsequent non-substitutions yesterday were a disgrace, would we have made any changes had De Jong scored, I wonder?

A bit negative, so I want to point out that I like Garde and have faith in him long term, but I'm just so pissed off that we seem to be accepting relegation. Why can't we start throwing some punches? We might end up getting knocked out, but it's worth losing on points with a bit of pride.

Maybe I'm overreacting a bit. Like I said, I like the guy, but drawing games isn't gonna keep us up

He has to build a base of confidence that will survive losing a couple of games. He may not have enough time to save us, but it's the only way we can potentially win enough games to stay up. Sacking him would be the worst possible decision they could make.

I get the whole confidence thing, but if we can't have a go at a shit team like Newcastle, who can we have a go at?

I found myself saying similar things in the first half, but then once we went for them in the second, it was clear Garde actually had a game plan, that was one shitly defended set piece from paying off.

[Dave]

I think it's impossible to say how we'll do in the Championship next season.  We could indeed stroll to promotion, but there's just as much chance we could be mid-table nobodies, or even suffer a second straight relegation

There isn't "just as much chance" of us getting relegated again as getting promoted.

I'm pretty certain that next season's odds will back that up pretty convincingly.

[Villa in Denmark]

How can you faith in someone long term that you want fired today? You have to laugh.

Totally misunderstood my post. Not surprised coming from you

I'll probably receive criticism for this because "OMG you're writing him off after 6 games!!!!11 give him the chair!!!!!", but I'd be tempted to sack him and appoint someone who wants to have a go. The line up and subsequent non-substitutions yesterday were a disgrace, would we have made any changes had De Jong scored, I wonder?

A bit negative, so I want to point out that I like Garde and have faith in him long term, but I'm just so pissed off that we seem to be accepting relegation. Why can't we start throwing some punches? We might end up getting knocked out, but it's worth losing on points with a bit of pride.

Maybe I'm overreacting a bit. Like I said, I like the guy, but drawing games isn't gonna keep us up

He has to build a base of confidence that will survive losing a couple of games. He may not have enough time to save us, but it's the only way we can potentially win enough games to stay up. Sacking him would be the worst possible decision they could make.

I get the whole confidence thing, but if we can't have a go at a shit team like Newcastle, who can we have a go at?

Well I'm another one that can't reconcile those 2 statements.

[brian green]

Remi Garde is a cool customer. We better get used to it. Lord Cardigan cavalry charging the cannons is not his style.

[Toronto Villa]

How can you faith in someone long term that you want fired today? You have to laugh.

Totally misunderstood my post. Not surprised coming from you

Now have I misunderstood anything? You said these two things in the same post:

I'd be tempted to sack him

I like Garde and have faith in him long term

All I asked is how you can possibly have both?

[ChicagoLion]

I think it's impossible to say how we'll do in the Championship next season.  We could indeed stroll to promotion, but there's just as much chance we could be mid-table nobodies, or even suffer a second straight relegation.  I just have no confidence in Lerner at all, and since Tom Fox was hired, the bad decisions seem to have increased, not decreased, and I fear that the fall in income, and general malaise around the place would just get worse.

We have no idea if there are relegation clauses in the players contracts and if they exist, what they say in terms of terms,wages or release values.Which players will want to stay and who we will be left with and that is before we know how much cash Lerner will release to fund purchases.
So I agree, we have no idea what are chances are in the Championship.

[oldhill_avfc]

Clumsily worded maybe, but the sentiment seems clear enough to me.  I assume he means he's the right man at the wrong time. 

In other words, he's the type of manager who could build something in the long term, but we may have to accept relegation in the meantime. 

As opposed to the other option of a Pullis type manager who we assume would be better at avoiding relegation but isn't going to build an attractive, competitive team for the future in the process.

[brian green]

I would back our Reserves to get promoted out of the Championship. If Rudy Gestede can get 13 goals in a season, Libor would get twice that number.

[john e]

I guarantee if we drop, we will be favourites to top that league next season,
 unless Chelsea go with us obviously