What has happened to Gary Gardner? he had an impressive spell with Forest last season didn't he? - perhaps I've missed somehting and he's gone out on loan again or got injured.
When Newcastle went down, they used it to shed themselves of some real non-contributing wage guzzling duds, kept most of the ones they wanted to keep, and came straight back up.That's what we need to be thinking.
Quote from: LeeB on December 20, 2015, 09:31:37 PMQuote from: Risso on December 20, 2015, 09:22:26 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on December 20, 2015, 09:19:31 PMWhen Newcastle went down, they used it to shed themselves of some real non-contributing wage guzzling duds, kept most of the ones they wanted to keep, and came straight back up.That's what we need to be thinking.They were in the fortunate position of having Andy Carroll and Kevin Nolan, who were too good for the Championship, and those two were mostly responsible for bringing them back up. Other than maybe Ayew, I don't think we've got many players we can say that about.The three Jordans would tear up that league. Traore would blossom. Okore would be way too good for that level, as would Gana, and if young Jack can see the light it would be the making of him.The rest can fuck off though.I have a horrible feeling that at least four of that lot will end up playing in the Champions League, and we'll be watching them.
Quote from: Risso on December 20, 2015, 09:22:26 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on December 20, 2015, 09:19:31 PMWhen Newcastle went down, they used it to shed themselves of some real non-contributing wage guzzling duds, kept most of the ones they wanted to keep, and came straight back up.That's what we need to be thinking.They were in the fortunate position of having Andy Carroll and Kevin Nolan, who were too good for the Championship, and those two were mostly responsible for bringing them back up. Other than maybe Ayew, I don't think we've got many players we can say that about.The three Jordans would tear up that league. Traore would blossom. Okore would be way too good for that level, as would Gana, and if young Jack can see the light it would be the making of him.The rest can fuck off though.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on December 20, 2015, 09:19:31 PMWhen Newcastle went down, they used it to shed themselves of some real non-contributing wage guzzling duds, kept most of the ones they wanted to keep, and came straight back up.That's what we need to be thinking.They were in the fortunate position of having Andy Carroll and Kevin Nolan, who were too good for the Championship, and those two were mostly responsible for bringing them back up. Other than maybe Ayew, I don't think we've got many players we can say that about.
PWS I hope your right but every other team will be after our scalp.
Andy Carroll scored 17 goals when Newcastle pissed the division. Less than Rudy got last season for mid-table Blackburn. Rudy is considered one of our worst players yet did more in that division than Newcastle's best player. We'll smash that division.
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on December 21, 2015, 01:45:48 AMAndy Carroll scored 17 goals when Newcastle pissed the division. Less than Rudy got last season for mid-table Blackburn. Rudy is considered one of our worst players yet did more in that division than Newcastle's best player. We'll smash that division.Agreed if we can keep much of the squad.
The manager is coming in for a bit of criticism from some but how many of the squad does he have available to select from. I think he would love to have another strong defensive midfield player to select from, as well as an experienced mobile forward, another central defender and a couple of fullbacks. As he hasn't, he is nursing the team along.The only options I can see is switching to a Gestede led attack (not been successful to date) with no supply or bringing in Grealish or Gill. I would love to see him bring Traore in but that is a huge gamble based on his inexperience.I do not see a stand out alternative to the minor changes he is making. I thought going to a midfield four was a good move as it gave us an extra body in there, even though I don't rate Westwood.
I'll probably receive criticism for this because "OMG you're writing him off after 6 games!!!!11 give him the chair!!!!!", but I'd be tempted to sack him and appoint someone who wants to have a go. The line up and subsequent non-substitutions yesterday were a disgrace, would we have made any changes had De Jong scored, I wonder?A bit negative, so I want to point out that I like Garde and have faith in him long term, but I'm just so pissed off that we seem to be accepting relegation. Why can't we start throwing some punches? We might end up getting knocked out, but it's worth losing on points with a bit of pride.Maybe I'm overreacting a bit. Like I said, I like the guy, but drawing games isn't gonna keep us up