Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[CT]

I really like his approach in the media - and this no bullshit about players we all know aren't pulling their weight. I am hoping it will signal to who-ever wants to be part of this project, that either you help or you are ousted (which is the only way when things are as crap as this)

I do too, in fact I just wish we'd had him in June. I like him a lot.

But what's the difference between him calling out players who he deems not good enough, and when Tim Sherwood did it. Is it the accent, is it the calmness of which he says everything?

When TS did this in his brash, noisy style, people complained saying he shouldn't be doing this in the media spotlight.

Just interested. Personally, I'm glad Remi has noticed the Gabby and Nzog types in the squad. I'd pay the pair off, just get rid.

[old man villa fan]

Sherwood made comments but with no action. Typical of him,  all gob!

[paul_e]

I really like his approach in the media - and this no bullshit about players we all know aren't pulling their weight. I am hoping it will signal to who-ever wants to be part of this project, that either you help or you are ousted (which is the only way when things are as crap as this)

I do too, in fact I just wish we'd had him in June. I like him a lot.

But what's the difference between him calling out players who he deems not good enough, and when Tim Sherwood did it. Is it the accent, is it the calmness of which he says everything?

When TS did this in his brash, noisy style, people complained saying he shouldn't be doing this in the media spotlight.

Just interested. Personally, I'm glad Remi has noticed the Gabby and Nzog types in the squad. I'd pay the pair off, just get rid.

Sherwood made mistakes himself and then used players as scapegoats.  Garde is saying the same things as we are about certain players and isn't doing it to save face, I think this is the 'kick up the arse to try to get a response' which Gabby and Nzog have needed for 3-4 years.  I think the little digs at Grealish and Kozak are similar, he's trying to light a fire in them, it won't work for everyone but it's worth a go before christmas to try to sneak us a few points before the window opens.

[ROBBO]

And he's told them face to face, he didn't use the press to get his message accross.

[brian green]

Agree Rob. When I think of Sherwood's time at Villa I am reminded of the famous interview with Diana when she said "there are three of us in this marriage".  There were three in the Sherwood relationship. Him, the media and the club, in that order.

[ROBBO]

Brian I think he has sussed out the problem at the club and that is attitude, for too long we have had Gabby Nzogbia and others just going through the motions, I look at the Leicester players and too a man they are up for it, look at what a little belief and effort can do. Relegated or not I want all the useless bastards kicked out and in future any player under performing with no excuse kicked out asap.

[oswald funkletrumpet]

Brian I think he has sussed out the problem at the club and that is attitude, for too long we have had Gabby Nzogbia and others just going through the motions, I look at the Leicester players and too a man they are up for it, look at what a little belief and effort can do. Relegated or not I want all the useless bastards kicked out and in future any player under performing with no excuse kicked out asap.

just look at watford as well

nzog, gabby, richardson and lescott shouldnw make the matchday squad again, they have no part to play in the rebuilding of the club

[sickbeggar]

He comes over as an intelligent man but a long term future here? No i don't think so. Think he will be gone by this time next year. The last time we were in this situation, we got in an experienced man who was respected throughout football with the authority to force things through even if it upset the Chairman and senior players. Garde isn't that man and its a momentous job for someone in his first season managing in England. Problem is i don't see an established SGT type available in the premier or elsewhere who would take a punt on a fallen giant this time.

[brian green]

I take it you do not consider what he did at Lyon to be of any merit?

[sickbeggar]

yes but it's a different scenario and a different league. One thing SGT did know very well was what it took to get out of the Championship and to a certain extent the sort of players he bought in to get us out were pretty much the sort of players watford were scouting for. I could be wrong but will Garde know of a Platt or similar? Will the players he knows well in France adapt to the championship? Are they suited? I can't see it myself.

[Gregorys Boy]

Yeah I think that Sherwood had too much of a ego about him, whereas Garde at least doesn't seem to have that issue.

[pauliewalnuts]

Brian I think he has sussed out the problem at the club and that is attitude, for too long we have had Gabby Nzogbia and others just going through the motions, I look at the Leicester players and too a man they are up for it, look at what a little belief and effort can do. Relegated or not I want all the useless bastards kicked out and in future any player under performing with no excuse kicked out asap.

I agree.

I am sick of the likes of Gabby just floating along from big contract to big contract, and would much rather have a manager like Garde who won't put up with that shit - from anyone, see his punishment of Grealish.

If we go down, I really hope Garde stays with us and rebuilds us as he sees best. The absolute last thing I want to see is him gone and some utter fucking relic off the British managers production line stepping in.

The club doesn't just need a bit of patching up in parts - it needs a total fucking gutting from top to bottom. I would rather we did that with a European coach with a modern outlook than some Curblishleyesque relic.

[pauliewalnuts]

yes but it's a different scenario and a different league.

And SGT was of a different time - 30 years ago.

The game has changed so much since then it is barely worth comparing.

[Bad English]

Remember those chants of "Fergie on the dole!"? I am not saying Rémi will be a Fergie for us but we might benefit from his approach, even in Div 2. Why get the jitters about him now?

[PaulWinch again]

Brian I think he has sussed out the problem at the club and that is attitude, for too long we have had Gabby Nzogbia and others just going through the motions, I look at the Leicester players and too a man they are up for it, look at what a little belief and effort can do. Relegated or not I want all the useless bastards kicked out and in future any player under performing with no excuse kicked out asap.

I agree.

I am sick of the likes of Gabby just floating along from big contract to big contract, and would much rather have a manager like Garde who won't put up with that shit - from anyone, see his punishment of Grealish.

If we go down, I really hope Garde stays with us and rebuilds us as he sees best. The absolute last thing I want to see is him gone and some utter fucking relic off the British managers production line stepping in.

The club doesn't just need a bit of patching up in parts - it needs a total fucking gutting from top to bottom. I would rather we did that with a European coach with a modern outlook than some Curblishleyesque relic.

I agree completely. I want Garde to stay and build, whether we go down or not. He already appears to be isolating the bad apples in the squad. I also hope him staying would mean we could retain the likes of Ayew and Veretout, who are starting to show their quality. I know people were annoyed we didn't go for it at the end yesterday, including me, but in the cold light of day I think he was trying to build a belief and foundation in the group. It makes sense, because to go on the sort of run we need to go on we're going to need a good amount of confidence. Garde is the man to take this club forward.