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Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1530 on: December 14, 2015, 11:50:24 AM »
onje_villa - he is picking some people consistently when he shouldn't be - Gestede for one. That's intransigence.As for the others you mention, Gabby has been injured and has not featured recently, but the others have  had playing time under Sherwood and Garde, so saying the latter has brought them back into the fold is a little melodramatic. Some people amaze me, they really do.

How many of Garde's 5 games has Gestede started?

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1531 on: December 14, 2015, 12:18:45 PM »
onje_villa - he is picking some people consistently when he shouldn't be - Gestede for one. That's intransigence.As for the others you mention, Gabby has been injured and has not featured recently, but the others have  had playing time under Sherwood and Garde, so saying the latter has brought them back into the fold is a little melodramatic. Some people amaze me, they really do.
I'd be really interested to see who other than the choice between Gestede and Kozak, you would pick differently? Do you really think the team selection is the issue here? Which players should he be playing that he isn't? Also, don't you think 5 games is somewhat premature to judge a manager brought in to start the long process of turning round a team in monumental decline?

I think that whatever team turns out for us, the absolute minimum requirement is that they run and chase and bust their guts to be competitive and I'd expect a team to start showing this after a manager has had 5 games to get this across. Didn't see it yesterday.
I agree that effort should be a minimum but anyone can see that effort isn't the issue here surely. We're lambasting Hutton for being a liability not for a lack of effort, similarly most of the new players brought in are struggling to find their feet but I have absolutely no issues with the likes of Ayew and Veretout, I think they try hard and unlike others I don't hate these players. I think Remi has done the right thing with Grealish and Gabby - these are the lazy chancers that are not putting the effort in and Garde has responded to that.

If we are going down, which certainly looks likely, it's not because Garde hasn't shouted enough at the team or told them to "get stuck in", it's dangerous combination of a chronic lack of confidence (losing games for 4 years will do that), allied with a worryingly lack of experience and lack of goal threat.

And for the record, I for one can see small changes Garde has brought about. We definitely look to be more organised, we no longer have Sherwood's baffling selections or substitutions. But the defensive errors and lack of goal threat are chronic conditions and we will need time to overcome them.

I think you're pretty much spot on here. Lack of effort is definitely not the issue.

Other than the odd player here or there I haven't really had any massive issue with any of the team selections either. I do think we look a lot better with the ball under Garde after dropping Westwood but the same old issues up front and at the back are still crippling us. All of the defence seem to have a mistake in them no matter who plays and we lack any serious firepower up front. I think it just mainly boils down to needing about 4/5 new players.

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1532 on: December 14, 2015, 12:39:51 PM »
There were 3 Villa players jogging instead of chasing Arsenal players for their second goal - Sanchez was the worst offender for me. Hate to agree with Shearer but he had the measure of our lack of commitment for the second goal.

Offline AVH87

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1533 on: December 14, 2015, 12:44:30 PM »
In Remi's defence:

Home
Arsenal
Man City
Watford

Away
Everton
Southampton

At the start of the season, if someone asked me how many points I expected from those games, I'd have said 3 or 4 points. We haven't fallen far short of my expectation. There does need to be an upturn immediately though, and I did expect a slightly higher level of performance by now if I'm honest, which makes me doubt whether or not we'll get a couple of wins in the next 3 or 4 games.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1535 on: December 14, 2015, 12:54:29 PM »

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1536 on: December 14, 2015, 12:55:39 PM »
At least there's a plan in place.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/remi-garde-aston-villa-boss-10594241
It may not be what fans want to hear but I think it's important nonetheless. If we do go down we need to have a plan in place that we start today, do the right things, put the right structure in place, we need a team who understand the way we play, what is required of our players. Look at how many well run clubs there are in the league now who were nowhere a few years ago. Let's start learning if we haven't already.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1537 on: December 14, 2015, 07:49:02 PM »
That is actually something I wanted to hear. Part of the reason we're in this mess is because we've lurched from one style to another over the years. If/when we go down I want Garde to have a chance to build his team and to try and get a philosophy at the club that can take us forward.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1538 on: December 14, 2015, 08:17:48 PM »
I was heartened to read that Garde still wants his coaches and knows we are light without them. 

I thought what was revealing is that he didn't make them an excuse for what is happening but instead used it to get to know the players better. I really, really want him to do well and realize he has been dealt a massively shit hand. I just hope he is open minded to try aggressive, adventurous formations because we are fast approaching the edge of the cliff.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1539 on: December 14, 2015, 08:47:27 PM »
There were 3 Villa players jogging instead of chasing Arsenal players for their second goal - Sanchez was the worst offender for me. Hate to agree with Shearer but he had the measure of our lack of commitment for the second goal.

Correct, however we have a seriously slow team from back to front. Hutton, Veretout and Sanchez looked to be running in treacle chasing back while Lescott must be the slowest player in the league. Just-Head up front, Sinclair/Grealish/Gil - zero pace in that trio either.

Thought Veretout's lack of heart was shocking for the second goal, he could see the danger and should have taken a yellow at worst to hack one of them down. But how many yards was Ramsey ahead of Gueye when he scored - 50 maybe?

They were both on the ground at the same time at the other end of the pitch, compare Ramsey's attitude, after a game midweek too, to our charlatan.

Gueye has a horrible attitude really, he has been the same in many games for us, losing the ball high up the pitch and not being arsed getting back. Tidy player on the ball but again in areas of the pitch that arent hurting the opposition. Fabian Delph he aint.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1540 on: December 14, 2015, 08:50:54 PM »
A genuinely good centre forward for the team to pay off with 2 competent full backs and a good holder would help.  Richards at right back would start it.

To be fair from the highlights it showed Hutton creating our two best chances second half.

Didnt see the game so appreciate it probably didnt show the multiple times Hutton failed to beat the first man.

For pace alone Richards needs to come back in at right back.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1541 on: December 14, 2015, 08:59:32 PM »
If there is a contingency plan for us being relegated, all I can say is that Remi Garde better get his skates on because there is so much to be done to make us an even half decent team again he is looking at at two seasons of rebuilding.

If we are going down, in a mere 30 weeks time we are going to have to be fighting harder and playing better than at any time in the last five years if we are to claw our way back to self respect and the EPL.

Offline Pat McMahon

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1542 on: December 14, 2015, 10:34:35 PM »
Apart from ability we lack physical presence, athleticism and experience. We have a number of physically lightweight players, some of whom have ability, but who are too easily outmuscled and outrun Other than Lescott, who has generally looked below par, we have little real experience and leadership. Whoever decided on our transfer policy last summer is being shown up as somewhat inadequate ( in keeping with the current club ethos).

When Garde arrived I hoped we would be better organised, hard to beat and have soldiers willing to die for the cause. I saw some of that at Southamptonmlast week but worryingly, in addition to the above faults,  I feel we have the team with the least character in the league. There is not a single redeeming feature about this team.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1543 on: December 14, 2015, 11:14:10 PM »
A genuinely good centre forward for the team to pay off with 2 competent full backs and a good holder would help.  Richards at right back would start it.

To be fair from the highlights it showed Hutton creating our two best chances second half.

Didnt see the game so appreciate it probably didnt show the multiple times Hutton failed to beat the first man.

For pace alone Richards needs to come back in at right back.

Hutton had an absolute shocker in the first half. He improved in the second, as did most of them to be fair, but by then the damage had been done.

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1544 on: December 14, 2015, 11:22:01 PM »
Correct Pat. Were not big, were not physical, were not fast, we don't counter attack, we don't play long ball, we don't play tikka takka, we aren't dirty, we aren't good at set pieces. There's not a single thing I can pin point what we do.

 


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