Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[pauliewalnuts]

Some of the hyperbole about our current position makes me want to vomit.

We are four points from safety. The first week in November.

We're not getting hammered week in, week out, either.

Had we kept Sherwood, we would have been doomed, I honestly believe that - because he's a clueless shyster in a position way, way beyond his competence.

We've got rid of him, though, and appointed someone whose record suggests he should be well suited for what we want.

You can not spend weeks moaning about Sherwood and how he's condemning us to relegation and then continue to insist we're fucked before the new manager has even had his first day of training.

[Villa in Denmark]

Some of the hyperbole about our current position makes me want to vomit.

We are four points from safety. The first week in November.

We're not getting hammered week in, week out, either.

Had we kept Sherwood, we would have been doomed, I honestly believe that - because he's a clueless shyster in a position way, way beyond his competence.

We've got rid of him, though, and appointed someone whose record suggests he should be well suited for what we want.

You can not spend weeks moaning about Sherwood and how he's condemning us to relegation and then continue to insist we're fucked before the new manager has even had his first day of training.

1. Stop being so reasonable.
2. I think you're under selling him there. If you'd added in gobshite with possible narcissistic tendencies then you're getting close.

I don't think anyone would claim that safety was guaranteed now, but we've given ourselves a decent shot at it.

[OCD]

I agree that some of the comments are too negative, as if we're already down. The players had better not think like that.

I can understand the reasoning for that thinking though. It's a case of not having the vision to see beyond what we've been doing for the last few weeks. I expect that kind of crap off pundits. The rare type of pundit that I respect is the one that has the imagination to see beyond recent history and factor in change.

It would be very easy to write off the Man City and Everton games. Surprise results that few see coming do happen though and one of those would make things look very different. We'll likely be up against it for the rest of the season but by no means are things as certain as some would seem to believe.

[four fornicholl]

I agree that some of the comments are too negative, as if we're already down. The players had better not think like that.

I can understand the reasoning for that thinking though. It's a case of not having the vision to see beyond what we've been doing for the last few weeks. I expect that kind of crap off pundits. The rare type of pundit that I respect is the one that has the imagination to see beyond recent history and factor in change.

It would be very easy to write off the Man City and Everton games. Surprise results that few see coming do happen though and one of those would make things look very different. We'll likely be up against it for the rest of the season but by no means are things as certain as some would seem to believe.
[/quois it just me but when did beating everton become a surprise
no offence

[joe_c]

From a text conversation I had with a nose after Sherwood succumbed to the inevitable.

"Ideally I'd like someone I've never heard of from a more interesting and progressive league than the premiership.

Or Gary Rowett."

Are there any backroom positions that he could fill?

[passport1]

He could be the next Arsene wenger and we still could well go down. If he becomes the fifth consecutive manager to do worse here than anywhere in their career to date I think we'll have to put it down to "other factors".

This **

[OCD]

I agree that some of the comments are too negative, as if we're already down. The players had better not think like that.

I can understand the reasoning for that thinking though. It's a case of not having the vision to see beyond what we've been doing for the last few weeks. I expect that kind of crap off pundits. The rare type of pundit that I respect is the one that has the imagination to see beyond recent history and factor in change.

It would be very easy to write off the Man City and Everton games. Surprise results that few see coming do happen though and one of those would make things look very different. We'll likely be up against it for the rest of the season but by no means are things as certain as some would seem to believe.

is it just me but when did beating everton become a surprise
no offence

None taken. There have been comments from people saying it's a 4-point gap now but wait until after the Man City and Everton games and see what the gap is, or along those lines. So seem to be writing them both off. It is a tough game these days and it goes back to the point that Sherwood's Villa would have had no chance. Garde will have had about 3 weeks with most of the players by the time that game comes around so it will be interesting to see how we shape up by then.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Totally unlike myself, he is intelligent and measured in his responses to searching questions.

He's everything MON pretended to be.

[passport1]

Different sized trophy cabinet though.

[Villa in Denmark]

Totally unlike myself, he is intelligent and measured in his responses to searching questions.

He's everything MON pretended to be.

Oddly, despite our current position, I'm more optimistic than I've been since Houllier left.^*
He looks and sounds like he knows what he wants and what he's doing and gives the impression that he won't be cowed by the size of the job.
^* I was OK with Lambert until I saw a picture of him stood on the Holte holding a scarf with a look on his face that seemed to be radiating "how the fuck did I swing that?"

[Dave]

He could be the next Arsene wenger and we still could well go down. If he becomes the fifth consecutive manager to do worse here than anywhere in their career to date I think we'll have to put it down to "other factors".

Although your general point is sound, Lambert did much worse at Livingstone than he did with us.

And McLeish's time at Forest made his spell with us look like he was the reincarnation of Brian Clough.

Otherwise, carry on.

[Villa in Denmark]

Different sized trophy cabinet though.

2 league cups v 1 French FA Cup?

I'm discounting MON's record in Scotland as
1. Garde has never had the opportunity to manage in a duopoly.
2. McLeish has a comparable record to MON over the same period, including a better record in Europe despite a huge financial disadvantage. We all know how that worked out for us.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

He looks and sounds like he knows what he wants and what he's doing and gives the impression that he won't be cowed by the size of the job.

If we go by Deloitte's ranking, Villa is a step down from Lyon.

[Villa in Denmark]

He looks and sounds like he knows what he wants and what he's doing and gives the impression that he won't be cowed by the size of the job.

If we go by Deloitte's ranking, Villa is a step down from Lyon.

That might account for it then.

I'd have said given their record over the last 20 years that you'd have to say that they were bigger (can't comment before then), but they've always seemed to be one of the teams that seemed to win regular titles and do OK in Europe.

The weight of expectation of taking over a team that had won I think 7 out of 10 championships to try and keep them competitive whilst pretty much selling anyone you can get money for must have been immense.

[passport1]

'I'm discounting MON's record in Scotland '

Of course you are.