Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[cdbearsfan]

His only win was against Newcastle and every Sunderland manager beats them.

[Toronto Villa]

I'm amazed that people associate having a slightly visionary plan with not getting immediate results - sometimes it doesn't, but sometimes it absolutely does.

It's as if there is only one way to win matches or one way to defend or one way to score goals. We showed last night what a tiny bit of belief can do because for a short period we were every bit as good as Spurs. That we ultimately could not come back is because 1) the hole was too big given the way the "manager" set us up initially, and 2) we were unlucky and finally succumbed to another goal having pushed forward. Garde will have taken note of the good and the bad, and if he's as astute as we hope he is in time he will find a way to bring on the players we acquired in the summer while eliminating those who don't buy in.

Randy, who doesn't say much, made it crystal clear (to me anyway) in a couple of sentences yesterday about what has pissed him and the board off. Here is a man looking to sell the club, who then sanctioned spending a large sum of money on new players only to find the former manager, and now the interim manager almost refusing to acknowledge them or play them. That won't have gone unnoticed and I am sure the need to use the likes of Veretout or Amavi or Traore will have been a key reason to hire Garde so I expect to see most if not all them reintegrated fully to the squad in the very near future.

Appointing Garde and supporting him will be a priority for the board. He might not get a ton to spend in January but he will be supported. Additionally he'll be supported in his decisions regarding the existing squad and coaching staff. Hopefully that spells the end to those hiding under the blanket of comfort and mediocrity like Gabby and MacDonald.

[rob_bridge]

I'm amazed that people associate having a slightly visionary plan with not getting immediate results - sometimes it doesn't, but sometimes it absolutely does.

It's as if there is only one way to win matches or one way to defendor one way to score goals. We showed last night what a tiny bit of belief can do because for a short period we were every bit as good as Spurs. That we ultimately could not come back is because 1) the hole was too big given the way the "manager" set us up initially, and 2) we were unlucky and finally succumbed to another goal having pushed forward. Garde will have taken note of the good and the bad, and if he's as astute as we hope he is in time he will find a way to bring on the players we acquired in the summer while eliminating those who don't buy in.

Randy, who doesn't say much, made it crystal clear (to me anyway) in a couple of sentences yesterday about what has pissed him and the board off. Here is a man looking to sell the club, who then sanctioned spending a large sum of money on new players only to find the former manager, and now the interim manager almost refusing to acknowledge them or play them. That won't have gone unnoticed and I am sure the need to use the likes of Veretout or Amavi or Traore will have been a key reason to hire Garde so I expect to see most if not all them reintegrated fully to the squad in the very near future.

Appointing Garde and supporting him will be a priority for the board. He might not get a ton to spend in January but he will be supported. Additionally he'll be supported in his decisions regarding the existing squad and coaching staff. Hopefully that spells the end to those hiding under the blanket of comfort and mediocrity like Gabby and MacDonald.

A bit out of the loop. When did Randy say this?

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I'm not sure if it's been commented on, but I have seen some TV replays of Garde on the box last night, where the most he seemed to move was a shake of the head.

I like that. Unruffled and unburdened by emotion, working out the basic organisational issues we have and how to fix them. Not leaping around like a fool, because he's showing his passion as a proper football man.

Nice article on the BBC.

[Toronto Villa]

I'm amazed that people associate having a slightly visionary plan with not getting immediate results - sometimes it doesn't, but sometimes it absolutely does.

It's as if there is only one way to win matches or one way to defendor one way to score goals. We showed last night what a tiny bit of belief can do because for a short period we were every bit as good as Spurs. That we ultimately could not come back is because 1) the hole was too big given the way the "manager" set us up initially, and 2) we were unlucky and finally succumbed to another goal having pushed forward. Garde will have taken note of the good and the bad, and if he's as astute as we hope he is in time he will find a way to bring on the players we acquired in the summer while eliminating those who don't buy in.

Randy, who doesn't say much, made it crystal clear (to me anyway) in a couple of sentences yesterday about what has pissed him and the board off. Here is a man looking to sell the club, who then sanctioned spending a large sum of money on new players only to find the former manager, and now the interim manager almost refusing to acknowledge them or play them. That won't have gone unnoticed and I am sure the need to use the likes of Veretout or Amavi or Traore will have been a key reason to hire Garde so I expect to see most if not all them reintegrated fully to the squad in the very near future.

Appointing Garde and supporting him will be a priority for the board. He might not get a ton to spend in January but he will be supported. Additionally he'll be supported in his decisions regarding the existing squad and coaching staff. Hopefully that spells the end to those hiding under the blanket of comfort and mediocrity like Gabby and MacDonald.

A bit out of the loop. When did Randy say this?

it was in the announcement yesterday Rob, on the OS

"Nobody at Villa can deny that we are way behind. We recruited aggressively this past summer and it is our responsibility to now harvest this talent rather than buckle under pressure and criticism - we are better than that. On behalf of the Board we wish Rémi every success."

[maidstonevillain]

Allardyce has lost two out of his first three and got twatted six in one of those games.

I am not saying Garde will work magic from the off, but why is a retrograde dinosaur, with a fat head I may add, more likely to work it out from day 1 at a new club than Garde? Do we play a different sport here?

Because on the whole his retrograde dinosaur tactics are tried and tested.  And he has got 3 more points than us in the last three games.

[rob_bridge]

Thanks TV

I 'heard' the quote but didn't know who it was attributable too.

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Allardyce has lost two out of his first three and got twatted six in one of those games.

I am not saying Garde will work magic from the off, but why is a retrograde dinosaur, with a fat head I may add, more likely to work it out from day 1 at a new club than Garde? Do we play a different sport here?

Because on the whole his retrograde dinosaur tactics are tried and tested.  And he has got 3 more points than us in the last three games.

Do sides not stay up by playing attractive passing football?

They were shite against Newcastle too, who even with 10 men looked miles better than Sunderland.

[Monty]

Thanks TV

I 'heard' the quote but didn't know who it was attributable too.

Tried, tested, and proven to bring every bit as much failure as success. Every year teams at the bottom try and grind their way out, and every year three of them fail pathetically. Meanwhile, other teams playing better football overperform and claw their way out of it.

And never mind other teams, just look at us for a minute. In the post-MON (and largely post-money era), whenever we've been good to watch we've also been getting points, and whenever we've been ugly we've ended up in deep, deep trouble. Lambert's first season - horrific scrambling defensive mediocrity salvaged by a crazy last few weeks; last season, again exactly the same pattern, only this time it was Sherwood's crazy attacking (and the performances of Delph, Benteke and Grealish) just about saved us.

I think we need to go with what history tells us on this one - good football, for us, is also winning football. Our problem is that we play awful football too much, and get awful results. Time to change that, I think.

[mr underhill]

It has to for us to survive  & prosper in this or any other  league - I'm just praying we don't see some of last night's half-arsed chancers in a first team squad again

[Smirker]

Is there any chance of us getting Garde's assistants still?

[Villa in Denmark]

Allardyce has lost two out of his first three and got twatted six in one of those games.

I am not saying Garde will work magic from the off, but why is a retrograde dinosaur, with a fat head I may add, more likely to work it out from day 1 at a new club than Garde? Do we play a different sport here?

Well what we play sure as hell ain't football.

[Walmley_Villa]

I'm pleased we haven't gone down the obvious route - Pearson etc and it is an experimental high risk approach. Whatever happens I hope we stick with him and vice versa and get the right footballing structure in place (which I think Houllier would have overseen). If the worst happens then so be it but I hope that whatever happens we focus on the footballing side of things as I think we need a total transformation at all levels.

[gpbarr]

If we stick with this guy (irrespective what happens this seaon - if we go down it will largely not be his fault), we may reverse the horrible trend of the last 5 years. If this is another short term option, we will get everything we deserve (and are getting what we deserve).

[joe_c]

His only win was against Newcastle and every Sunderland manager beats them.

They've won the last six meetings under four different managers which is a pretty astonishing statistic.