Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[Brend'Watkins]

As paul_ pointed out further up, we don't need to be looking over the whole season to see what we need to do. Our aim now is to get off the bottom and out of the bottom 3, so 4 more points is our target for now. 

[Dave]

Finally, whilst I'm sure Garde isn't a bad appointment, is he what we need now? It's either a brilliant piece of foresight, or it is,l once again, another gamble. I tend to think the latter and that's what irks me more than anything.

Compared to which great, available manager who would represent nailed-on, guaranteed success?

[Chris Smith]

It's sad to think that 25 years after Jo Venglos there are still some - and Villa aren't alone in this - whose first thought is "He's foreign, I haven't heard of him so he must be shit" and hanker for Tony Pulis.

My worry is that we keep getting it wrong so it is a triumph of hope over experience to expect this to be any different.

I can see the thinking behind it and am genuinely looking forward to seeing how it works out but then I thought the same about Lambert.

[Wiggz]

Finally, whilst I'm sure Garde isn't a bad appointment, is he what we need now? It's either a brilliant piece of foresight, or it is,l once again, another gamble. I tend to think the latter and that's what irks me more than anything.

Compared to which great, available manager who would represent nailed-on, guaranteed success?

You're right....I'd have plumped for pulling the trigger earlier and getting Allardyce for some PL know how. Granted his Sunderland stint is not going great, but he has proven PL experience and graft.

I worry Garde will expect a little much of the players we have...Grealish, whilst excellent, is young and inconsistent and as many games as he's looked the outstanding player on the pitch, he's been carried too. We can't afford that and I worry Garde's style, based on my memory of Lyon during his stint, will push for a floating attacking style.....I'm all for it if it works...but I'm worried it won't.

Your point is correct though....there isn't anyone else who represents a nailed on guarantee....I'd quite like to have seen Rodgers at Villa though...although I'm sure as many cons can be argued against this as pros.

[wince]

This has to be long term and with a mind to the fact we might end up relegated and will need a manager with the nous to get us back up. No more short term effect blitzkrieg managers, we need stability and we need points on the board but if we do go down, we need a manager who will get us drilled and unified to get up again. I for one welcome Garde and pundits and media luvvies who stink up sky sports and MOTD can do one. We have nothing whatsoever to lose as we are heading down the khazi anyway. So lets see what we can do

Viva le Villa!

[passitsideways]

It's sad to think that 25 years after Jo Venglos there are still some - and Villa aren't alone in this - whose first thought is "He's foreign, I haven't heard of him so he must be shit" and hanker for Tony Pulis.

My worry is that we keep getting it wrong so it is a triumph of hope over experience to expect this to be any different.

I can see the thinking behind it and am genuinely looking forward to seeing how it works out but then I thought the same about Lambert.

I guess you have to account for the differences in circumstances though. Okay, we're in deeper shit league position-wise, but the squad is better than it was when Lambert arrived (having bought proper talents rather than relying mostly on the lower league bargain bin), and it seems like we should have enough in reserve from the summer to spend 10+ million in January if we really need it. Lambert didn't do himself any favours of course but he was hung out to dry to some extent with everything he had to do.

[john e]

Well I never
Just heard Cascerino on SSN talking sense about Villa and Garde,
Agreed with every word, I never thought I'd ever say that

[garyshawsknee]

It's interesting to read about his influence with Loic Remey, would love us to make a move for him in January.

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Finally, whilst I'm sure Garde isn't a bad appointment, is he what we need now? It's either a brilliant piece of foresight, or it is,l once again, another gamble. I tend to think the latter and that's what irks me more than anything.

Compared to which great, available manager who would represent nailed-on, guaranteed success?

Sam Allardyce.

He knows the league. Look how he's got Sunderland organised.

[rob_bridge]

Well I never
Just heard Cascerino on SSN talking sense about Villa and Garde,
Agreed with every word, I never thought I'd ever say that

I suspect as he played in France the whole world doesn't revolve around the Premier League

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Jeez, I am not sure I feel as hopeful after reading that French article.

Yeah, but they also said that a midfield containing Westwood 'picks itself' because Sanchez likes to get forward too much. Bizarre.

It also writes off Veretout, who has barely played a game and Ayew, who has started to look decent after having a run of a few games.

I am not disputing the authors knowledge of French football, but I seriously dispute their knowledge of us, our players and the English language, which gets butchered.

[Ron Manager]

So it appears the new manager does not have a full understanding of the English language.After three years at Arsenal. That is news I did not want to hear.But the Tottenham manager is still learning our language and he did well at Southampton.

Perhaps it doesn't matter.

[aev]

Jeez, I am not sure I feel as hopeful after reading that French article.

Yeah, but they also said that a midfield containing Westwood 'picks itself' because Sanchez likes to get forward too much. Bizarre.

It also writes off Veretout, who has barely played a game and Ayew, who has started to look decent after having a run of a few games.

I am not disputing the authors knowledge of French football, but I seriously dispute their knowledge of us, our players and the English language, which gets butchered.

Let's hope his opinion of Westwood isn't the only thing wide of the mark.

[Wiggz]

Jeez, I am not sure I feel as hopeful after reading that French article.

Yeah, but they also said that a midfield containing Westwood 'picks itself' because Sanchez likes to get forward too much. Bizarre.

It also writes off Veretout, who has barely played a game and Ayew, who has started to look decent after having a run of a few games.

I am not disputing the authors knowledge of French football, but I seriously dispute their knowledge of us, our players and the English language, which gets butchered.

For me, Veretout has looked the only technical midfield player we have capable of doing the attacking work Delph did...driving through the middle of the park. Gueye does the defensive bit well enough, and starts moves off, Veretout, for me, should be playing alongside him.

[john e]

Well I never
Just heard Cascerino on SSN talking sense about Villa and Garde,
Agreed with every word, I never thought I'd ever say that

I suspect as he played in France the whole world doesn't revolve around the Premier League

True, good point