Pundits.

[Stu]

We've lost 8 of the first 10 games of the season and sit rock bottom of the league. There was nothing to suggest that Sherwood was learning from his mistakes and the team selections were getting weirder.

Time is exactly what we don't have. The board were right to sack him, but they were wrong to offer him a long term contract, so basically this is their mess. Again.

[Clampy]

We've lost 8 of the first 10 games of the season and sit rock bottom of the league. There was nothing to suggest that Sherwood was learning from his mistakes and the team selections were getting weirder.

Time is exactly what we don't have. The board were right to sack him, but they were wrong to offer him a long term contract, so basically this is their mess. Again.

I think it would have been harsh letting him go at the end of last season though.

[pbavfckuwait]

What really confuses me is the pundits wanting Villa to have an British manager, so right Moyes he has said No, I also think I have read that Rodgers has said No, so bag puss Redknapp and the rest of you who should this brilliant Brit be?

[CT]

Alan Green, what a knob.

During the Watford / West Ham game the camera showed Watford fans holding up their phones with torches on (not sure why), to which he said "This is the new craze these days".

Well no Alan, the Boro fans at Old Trafford did it for a reason.

[BoskoDjembaSalifou]

I see that Potchettino has now been criticising our board for not showing enough patience. It does make me laugh that there is this general perception that if you give a manager time they will defintely succeed. It's just utter bollocks.

Wonder if he thinks Nigel Adkins deserved more time.

[Billy Walker]

What really confuses me is the pundits wanting Villa to have an British manager, so right Moyes he has said No, I also think I have read that Rodgers has said No, so bag puss Redknapp and the rest of you who should this brilliant Brit be?

Moyes and Rodgers haven't been offered the job as far as I can tell.

The thing that is lost on the pundits is that Villa's last three managers have all been British - two young and British - and none of them have been a success unfortunately.  How they can't see this basic flaw in their argument is beyond me.

[Ian.]

Why should Villa have a UK manager? For the last 100 years or so we have give more to British footballers than probably any other club. Have we not supplied the England national team with more players than anyone else?

We have given young managers like Turner, Little, Gregory, Lambert and Sherwood big jobs in my life time. As well as them we have employed many other British managers while others have looked abroad. I remember Gregory fielding an entire English team once when the fashion was to shop overseas.

Nobody else would have been as patient as we were while Lambert broke every unwanted record going. Sherwood's rotten form started last season and it was plainly obvious he had lost compete control and didn't have a clue what to do.

While Watford, Southampton and West Ham amongst others have no good Jonny foreigners we must apoint the next useless British candidate.

These bloody pundits need to look at the bigger picture and research things before they are spouting nonsense on the TV.

[Villa in Denmark]

What really confuses me is the pundits wanting Villa to have an British manager, so right Moyes he has said No, I also think I have read that Rodgers has said No, so bag puss Redknapp and the rest of you who should this brilliant Brit be?

Moyes and Rodgers haven't been offered the job as far as I can tell.

The thing that is lost on the pundits is that Villa's last three managers have all been British - two young and British - and none of them have been a success unfortunately.  How they can't see this basic flaw in their argument is beyond me.

It's because they're not trying to construct a logical argument and are therefore ambivalent at best to flaws in their arguments.

What they are about however, is reinforcing their narrative of certain teams having a definite place in the pecking order and club's knowing their place.

Was there an outcry when Sherwood got the boot from Spurs?
Was there an outcry when Moyes was dumped by Man Utd?
Was there an outcry when Hughes was sacked by Man City with Mancini watching from the stands?

Not that I can remember. I'd hazard a guess that all of the above were cases of the manager's media profiles being.
lower than those of their respective clubs. That's fine as long as the results match the media expectations of the club, but as soon as you fall short you're toast.

We're experiencing the flip side. Sherwood's a media darling so we were always going to be "lucky to have him" and so on.  He could have relegated us without winning another point and we'd have still been too hasty ditching him in May.

[rob_bridge]

As I stated before if Sherwood was that good why are none of these 'expert' pundits suggesting that now such a great option is back on the market that this naturally increases the pressure on Roberto Martinez, Ronald Koeman, Mark Hughes, Tony Pullis, Alan Pardew and even Steve McLaren as Sherwood will clearly be a shoo in for any of these jobs should any of the respective teams under perform.

Sherwood is a vacuous fuckwit and the ultimate one trick pony. He places a notch above Billy McFuckingNeil, on a par with McLeish and just below Lambert and Turner in terms of uselessness.

[Pete3206]

I see that Potchettino has now been criticising our board for not showing enough patience. It does make me laugh that there is this general perception that if you give a manager time they will defintely succeed. It's just utter bollocks.

It's the standard manager press conference line. He could hardly come out say he thought Sherwood was useless, even if he believed it to be the case.

[old man villa fan]

I see that Potchettino has now been criticising our board for not showing enough patience. It does make me laugh that there is this general perception that if you give a manager time they will defintely succeed. It's just utter bollocks.

It's the standard manager press conference line. He could hardly come out say he thought Sherwood was useless, even if he believed it to be the case.

and is contrary to his comments in an article in the Sunday Express today http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/616038/Mauricio-Pochettino-Tottenham-sack-Tim-Shewrood-Aston-Villa-Premier-League

[itbrvilla]

Danny '******' Mills constants saying were comparable to Sheff Weds and Leeds in terms of history and fan base achievements etc. Can someone pit this fucker straight when he next does a phone in the twat.

[Dante Lavelli]

My apologies for not reading the preceding 9 pages, but can I say how good the pundits are on BT Sport's Goals Show for the champions league nights. 

They're journalists plus Howard Webb anchored by James Richardson.  I've been a big fan of the guardian podcast for years, because they are not afraid to have an alternative view and indeed take the piss out of the pantomime that is modern football.  Whilst slightly less piss taking - after all they've paid a lot of money for the broadcasting rights - their observations are still very erudite and much more likely to ignore the usual agenda. 

I recommend it.

[villabear]

My apologies for not reading the preceding 9 pages, but can I say how good the pundits are on BT Sport's Goals Show for the champions league nights. 

They're journalists plus Howard Webb anchored by James Richardson.  I've been a big fan of the guardian podcast for years, because they are not afraid to have an alternative view and indeed take the piss out of the pantomime that is modern football.  Whilst slightly less piss taking - after all they've paid a lot of money for the broadcasting rights - their observations are still very erudite and much more likely to ignore the usual agenda. 

I recommend it.

I always loved Channel Four's Football Italia. James Richardson looked so cool sitting outside Italian cafes reading the Gazetta De La Sport headlines.

[Dante Lavelli]

My apologies for not reading the preceding 9 pages, but can I say how good the pundits are on BT Sport's Goals Show for the champions league nights. 

They're journalists plus Howard Webb anchored by James Richardson.  I've been a big fan of the guardian podcast for years, because they are not afraid to have an alternative view and indeed take the piss out of the pantomime that is modern football.  Whilst slightly less piss taking - after all they've paid a lot of money for the broadcasting rights - their observations are still very erudite and much more likely to ignore the usual agenda. 

I recommend it.

Can I say that for as good as the Goals show is, their coverage of the matches - the expensive pundits - is fucking awful. 
Tonight is Harry Redknapp, Scholes (benefit of the doubt) and Ferdinand.  I feel sorry for Gary Lineker trying to get anything interesting or insightful from them.