Is the Villa job a poison chalice?

[robbo1874]

It's simple really, years of a penny-pinching budget and poor manager appointments are to blame. Lerner is a disgrace as custodian of this great club. A disastrous last 5 years of gradual decline.

quite rapid decline, you could say- when you look at where we were 5 years ago in comparison to where we currently languish and the time it took for us to get there.

[mr underhill]

we are like a grand country estate that has been allowed to fall into gentle dilapidation. What we need is Julian Fellows to come along and put everything right in a soft focus, back lit Sunday night kind of way

[Hopadop]

we are like a grand country estate that has been allowed to fall into gentle dilapidation. What we need is Julian Fellows to come along and put everything right in a soft focus, back lit Sunday night kind of way

Hugh Bonneville and Maggie Smith in the dug out.

Bit of a gamble, but so's the bloke from the French second division.

[DeKuip]

Tim Sherwood

Edit: ignore that, I was replying to something on page 1 without noticing there were a few pages after!

[mr underhill]

Michelle Dockery as our new physio wouldn't be a bad shout either.

[Tayls_7]

Michelle Dockery as our new physio wouldn't be a bad shout either.

I'd have more groin strains than Nathan Baker.

[mr underhill]

Ha! Whilst we're at it, might as well get Helen George in to assist. She's also a Villa fan so a double plus.

[Ads]

No, the issue lies with the managerial appointments post O'Neill.

Plenty of money has still been spent, enough to bring together a competitive side, it's just been wasted on too much garbage as we lurch from one managers idea to another.

Houiller delivered a mid-table finish that we would cry out for now. The flirt with a relegation battle, the few surrenders and poor results, when viewed through the prysim of what went before, always meant we'd feel disappointed. His health did for him, but I am confident with the players he would have brought in, that we would not have struggled so badly the following seasons.

McLiesh remains the greatest mystery in our history. I have no explanation for him. 7 wins in a season. Absolutely frightening. To try and court Martinez and end up with that loser is madness.

Lambert; came from a small provincial club with little expectation of pressure. He was way out of his depth and retreated into his shell. Should have been sacked in 2012/13. The run at the end of that year saved him and us, but was a massive false dawn.

Sherwood; a charlatan. Even more out of his depth than Lambert.

Get this appointment right and we too can enjoy the dizzying heights of mid-table. It's not hard to correlate shit managers with shit seasons.

[Virgil Caine]

I personally don't buy into this poison chalice argument- there is a danger of creating a myth that thrives on negativity. Why wouldn't a Manager want to invest his time and reputation on a club that has been in the Premier League since inception, is the largest and best supported club in the second largest city of the U.K., has a pedigree and history that is unrivalled amongst its peers, has a solid infrastructure, financially stable, has a squad of players that can be moulded and coached to greatness, and more than anything a fantastic supporter base which will, with just a few signs of improvement being evident, back the Club through and through. UTV

[mr underhill]

good points, well made.

[Archie]

Financially solid? I had taken that we  don't have the money to pay Remy's Garde staff.

[Virgil Caine]

We won't be financially solid if we pay every ransom note that comes our way Archie. I am sure there are negotiations under way to reach a compromise as regards to the back room staff. It's all part of the game.

[aj2k77]

Financially solid? I had taken that we  don't have the money to pay Remy's Garde staff.

What are Physio's and Assistant managers on? A few hundred grand at most. We have the money for that, we will just feck around for a while, being nice. They'll come, I just can't see us not getting a manager in because we can't convince a small, second division French side to part with a physio. It wouldn't make any sense.

[mr underhill]

so totally par for Villa's course then.

[Ad@m]

I personally don't buy into this poison chalice argument- there is a danger of creating a myth that thrives on negativity. Why wouldn't a Manager want to invest his time and reputation on a club that has been in the Premier League since inception, is the largest and best supported club in the second largest city of the U.K., has a pedigree and history that is unrivalled amongst its peers, has a solid infrastructure, financially stable, has a squad of players that can be moulded and coached to greatness, and more than anything a fantastic supporter base which will, with just a few signs of improvement being evident, back the Club through and through. UTV

Because despite all of that, the only manager in the last 30 years to not destroy his career by taking over the Villa has been Sir GT.

There are lots of managers keen to take the job but they don't have the pedigree we'd like.  The managers that do have the pedigree we want probably think the risks outweigh the benefits given our realistic expectations of "success" given where we are now is a place in the Europa League at some stage in the next 5 years and maybe a domestic cup.