Is the Villa job a poison chalice?

[Malandro]

As for the villa job, its one I'd love. Well paid, easy to get the boot from and get compensated for your troubles.

[mr underhill]

good point, really its everyone's dream gig, a minimum jackpot of £2m for a few months work. Much better than scratch cards or, indeed, the main draw.

[Ormy Droid]

As for the villa job, its one I'd love. Well paid, easy to get the boot from and get compensated for your troubles.

I don't know, the seat's a bit too close to the pitch for my liking, and the football's not exactly up to much either.

[Singapore Villa]

Roy Keane would kick arse and be good for a quote now and again. But I am en Garde.

Maybe we should send out for Ronnie Pickering.

"Who is this Ronie Pickering c*nt?  Does he want some?"  Wealdstone Raider.

[mr underhill]

you bet he does and he's bringing that geezer from Eastenders with him for some afters

[ClaretAndBlueBlood]

As for the villa job, its one I'd love. Well paid, easy to get the boot from and get compensated for your troubles.

I don't know, the seat's a bit too close to the pitch for my liking, and the football's not exactly up to much either.

and you get those nasty men behind the dugout shouting at you

[Brian Taylor]

you bet he does and he's bringing that geezer from Eastenders with him for some afters

Ron Knee of Neasden Athletic is alledgedly unhappy with conditions, lord gnome reports.

[Ormy Droid]

As for the villa job, its one I'd love. Well paid, easy to get the boot from and get compensated for your troubles.

I don't know, the seat's a bit too close to the pitch for my liking, and the football's not exactly up to much either.

and you get those nasty men behind the dugout shouting at you

The parking spot would come in handy, though you'd have to leave well before the final whistle if you wanted to get out in good time.

[ez]

It is now. We don't sack a manager for 18 years then it's 3 in 4 years.

[mr underhill]

that's why the posh leather seats in the dug out look so new and unused.

[peter w]

O'Neill wasted the first splurge of cash and Sherwood had a decent amount of money to go back to the canvas with to build his team. I wouldn't be surprised if the new manager isn't given funds. However, given that we are rock bottom and as the job isn't as enticing as it should be there must be a carrot dangled in front of any manager other than an up and coming one who thinks he's the person to turn it around.

[mr underhill]

I'm guessing a massive bonus for keeping us up might be top of the list?

[The Laughing Policeman]

Even Mr. Saunders couldn't hack it when he left, and only Sir Graham went on to bigger things, and that didn't turn out too well either. So I guess the answer to the OP's question is yes.
I reckon anyone who takes the job has got to get very lucky sharpish. As in a new owner with oodles of cash or he has a coaching staff that know what they're doing.

[KRS]

No. We just have a history of employing crap managers...or good managers at the wrong time.

I'm sick of hearing the lines about losing the "likes of" Benteke and Delph...they were 2 players of the "likes of" them. We have massively improved the squad in terms of quality this summer, and it is simply the failings of Sherwood and his back room staff for the results on the pitch (team selections, tactics, coaching, formations, set pieces, fitness, etc).

If we get a genuinely good manager then they will walk into a very good club, with a good set up and talented players...if things aren't quite right, then a good manager will also be able to address those issues regardless of the owner.

[Salsa Party Animal]

Don't think it is a bad job. We are a big club and all the fans demand quality and entertaining football and be competitive. We have not done that for a long time. Sometimes after a bright start, managers couldn't keep up the momentum and have the ability to turn round momentum after a slump.

Look at the men we appointed since Billy O'Neill.

Sherwood - couldn't get result after reaching semi final for FA Cup and was lucky to get the job in first place. Lack of tactical knowledge and experience doesn't help. Think he got wrong coaching team.

Lambert - Pressure got to him and apart from Benteke his signing had not been great for the club.

McLeish - Was lucky to get the job first place, probably due to leading Birmingham City Cup winning season. He wasn't loved by the fans. Poor football and results mean he is not good enough for us.

Houiller - Was a good appointment but his health and diplomacy was lacking as he talk too much about Liverpool. Think he should be director of football rather manager.

O'Neill - Was good appointment, but in the end he doesn't use transfer/wages budget wisely plus he tried to stick with British based players. Think he could have lead Villa in Champions League football. 

O'Leary - Made too many enemies with the fans. He doesn't get the club and talk too much about Leeds.

Graham Taylor - 2nd time - Couldn't find the magic and tried to work with existing coaching staff and players. He is old fashioned.

John Gregory - Bright start but could not keep up the momentum and fell out with Doug Ellis and produce boring defensive football we dislike. He also spend too much money and get little return.

Brian Little - Great appointment but in the end Stan Collymore signing shouldn't happens as he find the pressure of Villa job too much for him and wasn't the same since he left Villa. I think if Stan Collymore delivered the good, Brian Little probably do another 5 years in the job. Won a cup as well.

Ron Atkinson - Right man for the job but ran out of ideas in the end and won the cup for us. I would thought if he had bit more backing and he could do more and made lot of good signings.

Dr Josef Venglos - Bold appointment, but in the end of day he didn't stamp his authority in the job and our footballers are not ready for new ideas and he didn't bring his men in or change the club enough.

Graham Taylor - Promotion, Runner up and become England Manager. Done great job and think he could lead us to the title if he stay there for another 3 years. He also need better backing as if he signed Sheringham instead of Cascarino we would won the title.

It seems to me the pressure of the job, lack of backing in crucial time and fighting with Ellis/Lerner made it difficult. The pressure from fans doesn't help. I believe if we have entertaining football, regular European football and exciting players and team. We will be happy. We don't have anything to cheers for long time.