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Author Topic: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?  (Read 294362 times)

Offline Rigadon

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1935 on: October 30, 2015, 01:48:30 PM »
Is it the fact he's foreign?  Or inexperienced?

I think it's more the foreign thing that is worrying people more than the experience - if we announced that we were hiring Francesco Guidolin or some other foreign type who has been managing consistently since the 1980s then they would still be saying that we should be hiring Nigel Pearson or Sean Dyche.

Some would, I agree.

Anyway, Garde sounds  a done deal so let's hope he's the man to make watching Villa enjoyable again. 

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1936 on: October 30, 2015, 01:49:12 PM »
Well, it can't be because he's inexperienced, since Sherwood should never have been sacked in the first place according to absolutely everyone who's ever played the game at the 'highest' level, and a few others are seriously suggesting we consider Dwight Yorke, so I think it's because he's foreign more than anything. I don't wish to see British managers become an irrelevance in our game (but if they will insist on being a bunch of thickos, well...), I just don't get why its such a big deal compared to the lack of British players at our top clubs, which seemingly isn't a problem.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1937 on: October 30, 2015, 01:51:33 PM »
Is it the fact he's foreign?  Or inexperienced?

I think it's more the foreign thing that is worrying people more than the experience - if we announced that we were hiring Francesco Guidolin or some other foreign type who has been managing consistently since the 1980s then they would still be saying that we should be hiring Nigel Pearson or Sean Dyche.

In the last 20 years, other than Roy Hodgson has there been other British coaches who have managed successfully in the 'Big' Leagues

I know McLaren did well in Holland but not so in Germany. Anyone else?

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1938 on: October 30, 2015, 01:51:41 PM »
Kevin MacDonald confirming that Remi Garde is in line for the job:

"He's got a good pedigree as a coach and obviously the hierarchy think he's the man for the job."

http://www.suttoncoldfieldobserver.co.uk/Aston-Villa-Remi-Garde-White-Hart-Lane-admits/story-28084874-detail/story.html

Well he sounds pretty sure.

i'd say so!

OK, well he will have my best wishes in what will be an incrediably tough job.
Nice to see K.Mac giving exclusives to the Sutton Observer !!
Bollocks to Sky and the nationals !!!  :-)


I trust he hasn't spoken out of turn ?
   

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1939 on: October 30, 2015, 01:53:18 PM »
Is it the fact he's foreign?  Or inexperienced?

I think it's more the foreign thing that is worrying people more than the experience - if we announced that we were hiring Francesco Guidolin or some other foreign type who has been managing consistently since the 1980s then they would still be saying that we should be hiring Nigel Pearson or Sean Dyche.

In the last 20 years, other than Roy Hodgson has there been other British coaches who have managed successfully in the 'Big' Leagues

I know McLaren did well in Holland but not so in Germany. Anyone else?

Is Eck still at Genk?

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1940 on: October 30, 2015, 01:56:07 PM »
Is it the fact he's foreign?  Or inexperienced?

I think it's more the foreign thing that is worrying people more than the experience - if we announced that we were hiring Francesco Guidolin or some other foreign type who has been managing consistently since the 1980s then they would still be saying that we should be hiring Nigel Pearson or Sean Dyche.

In the last 20 years, other than Roy Hodgson has there been other British coaches who have managed successfully in the 'Big' Leagues

I know McLaren did well in Holland but not so in Germany. Anyone else?

Bobby Robson ?

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1941 on: October 30, 2015, 01:57:22 PM »
Is it the fact he's foreign?  Or inexperienced?

I think it's more the foreign thing that is worrying people more than the experience - if we announced that we were hiring Francesco Guidolin or some other foreign type who has been managing consistently since the 1980s then they would still be saying that we should be hiring Nigel Pearson or Sean Dyche.

I agree completely. As an aside there's two reasons I want us to hire Garde. Firstly I want someone with fresh ideas who can potentially get us playing good football, which in turn will move us up the table. Secondly it would be funny to see all the idiotic football pundits and writers back tracking.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1942 on: October 30, 2015, 01:59:07 PM »
Just browsing a couple of online articles at work. Jamie Redknapp calls Garde an uninspiring choice (meaning he's probably never heard of him), then says "you can't tell me there aren't English managers available with better credentials". Yes I can Jamie. It's also typical apparently that we're looking abroad for a manager (yes Jamie, all of our recent managers were foreign weren't they).

THEN, elsewhere we have Wenger telling us that we didn't give Lambert enough time!!

Alan Brazil (yeah I know) can't understand why we'd look abroad when Nigel Pearson is available.

I need to stop reading this drivel before I start head butting walls.

You've answered your own question Marlon - don't listen to, or read it. I know that shouldn't have to be the answer but I haven't listened to any punditry on football for god knows how long. It's full of not very bright people like Brazil, Redknapp (x2), Quinn, Cascarino et al. The list is endless. I have no doubt some of them are quite nice chaps out of 'work' in a kind of 'one of the lads, old school' way but they are severely lacking in the brain cells department and compound that by thinking of Aston Villa as an irrelevance somewhere in the middle of the country. To them, QPR or Crystal Palace are more important which says it all. It isn't entirely true of the media as a whole. To give him his due, Adrian Durham was talking up just what a big club we are and one of the most successful clubs ever on Talkshite last night!

Adrian Durham is the worst, because he hides the fact that he actually has some knowledgeable things to say about football behind the moronic veneer of his radio programme in the evening.

The Durham that you might here on TalkShite on a Saturday sounds like a completely different person.

Totally agree on that

Caught some of his weekday show the other day and it was awful. Darren Gough is surely the stupidest person ever to be on radio. He's just mindblowingly thick. Listening to him massacre the English language is horrible. He can't even get the basics right, he struggles with the simplest thing. He's a broadcaster, FFS.

"The Daily Arsenal".  Why? And who on earth gives a f#ck?

In his favour, he's the only non-Villa fan I've ever heard suggest our European Cup win was the greatest of any English side. Which of course it was.

I think we all know why your sticking up for him ginge

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1943 on: October 30, 2015, 01:59:37 PM »
Kevin MacDonald confirming that Remi Garde is in line for the job:

"He's got a good pedigree as a coach and obviously the hierarchy think he's the man for the job."

http://www.suttoncoldfieldobserver.co.uk/Aston-Villa-Remi-Garde-White-Hart-Lane-admits/story-28084874-detail/story.html

Well he sounds pretty sure.

i'd say so!

OK, well he will have my best wishes in what will be an incrediably tough job.
Nice to see K.Mac giving exclusives to the Sutton Observer !!
Bollocks to Sky and the nationals !!!  :-)


I trust he hasn't spoken out of turn ?
   

Encouraging to hear that from Kmac, he's unlikely to break ranks if he doesn't have some inside info.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1944 on: October 30, 2015, 01:59:57 PM »
Is it the fact he's foreign?  Or inexperienced?

I think it's more the foreign thing that is worrying people more than the experience - if we announced that we were hiring Francesco Guidolin or some other foreign type who has been managing consistently since the 1980s then they would still be saying that we should be hiring Nigel Pearson or Sean Dyche.

In the last 20 years, other than Roy Hodgson has there been other British coaches who have managed successfully in the 'Big' Leagues

I know McLaren did well in Holland but not so in Germany. Anyone else?

Is Eck still at Genk?
Nope

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1945 on: October 30, 2015, 02:08:46 PM »
Is it the fact he's foreign?  Or inexperienced?

I think it's more the foreign thing that is worrying people more than the experience - if we announced that we were hiring Francesco Guidolin or some other foreign type who has been managing consistently since the 1980s then they would still be saying that we should be hiring Nigel Pearson or Sean Dyche.

In the last 20 years, other than Roy Hodgson has there been other British coaches who have managed successfully in the 'Big' Leagues

I know McLaren did well in Holland but not so in Germany. Anyone else?

Bobby Robson ?

John Toshack.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1946 on: October 30, 2015, 02:17:21 PM »
I'm torn on this, because -on the one hand- any coach worthy of the name should be able to bring a bit of organisation and nous to the set-up, regardless of where he is from.

On the other: Our record with French players and a previous French manager is not so hot. That's not anti French, history bares it out.

There were two concerns I had when we went about our summer business, one was that the type of players we opted for were largely the sort you would add to an already solid core.  The other concern was that by targeting that many players from France, there was a danger of cliques developing.

Individually, they all made sense from a business perspective.   But it's fitting that into the wider collective.

Maybe Garde is the man to do this, and his English shouldn't be a problem after spending so long at Arsenal. But I'd be wary of pandering to any group of individual players.


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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1947 on: October 30, 2015, 02:20:09 PM »
I'm torn on this, because -on the one hand- any coach worthy of the name should be able to bring a bit of organisation and nous to the set-up, regardless of where he is from.

On the other: Our record with French players and a previous French manager is not so hot. That's not anti French, history bares it out.

There were two concerns I had when we went about our summer business, one was that the type of players we opted for were largely the sort you would add to an already solid core.  The other concern was that by targeting that many players from France, there was a danger of cliques developing.

Individually, they all made sense from a business perspective.   But it's fitting that into the wider collective.

Maybe Garde is the man to do this, and his English shouldn't be a problem after spending so long at Arsenal. But I'd be wary of pandering to any group of individual players.



With regards to the previous French manager, we finished higher than we have in any of the years since. Houllier made some stupid PR mistakes and had a bad period, but he actually came across like he had a plan.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1948 on: October 30, 2015, 02:20:23 PM »
I'm torn on this, because -on the one hand- any coach worthy of the name should be able to bring a bit of organisation and nous to the set-up, regardless of where he is from.

On the other: Our record with French players and a previous French manager is not so hot. That's not anti French, history bares it out.

Our recent record with British players and managers ain't so hot either.

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