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Offline Rigadon

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1920 on: October 30, 2015, 01:14:01 PM »
Sadly there does seem to be this "Little Englander" attitude surround Remi Garde.  "I don't know much about him, so he's obvious rubbish".


Maybe from some quarters, but I'm happy to admit I'm concerned about this chaps credentials, especially as he absolutely needs to hit the ground running.  I'm not sure that being 'foreign' to the PL is an issue in this regard, but I'd prefer somebody who has been here and done it (Moyes for example).  People having doubts about a relatively new manager isnt' really surprising given our recent luck with our managers.

If he (or whoever else) gets off to a shaly start, we will really, really struggle to stay in the premier league. 

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1921 on: October 30, 2015, 01:14:39 PM »
Interesting quote from our captain on the Grauniad website today, in an article about the prbolem of releasing the two assistants from Lyon
Richards told Sky Sports News:
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“The manager who comes in needs to be able to get us going straight away. We haven’t got any time to settle in or blend in. We need to get going from the start. Whoever it is, whether it is Garde, let’s hope they can do that. If they speak French obviously it is going to be easier for them [the French players] to understand how they want to play. Let’s hope he speaks just as good English as French because we’re in England. When I went to Fiorentina I had to learn Italian and I had to try to adapt.”

I wonder whether his comment about the French players was a veiled criticism of our francophile squad members.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1922 on: October 30, 2015, 01:16:20 PM »
A win and a draw and we are out he bottom three. I am not sure I buy into this needing a miracle business, specially when we have Bournemouth, Newcastle, Sunderland and Norwich et al to play.
Yes however if we are still in the bottom 3 by the time we play them we may need a win win draw draw!

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1923 on: October 30, 2015, 01:17:35 PM »
Interesting quote from our captain on the Grauniad website today, in an article about the prbolem of releasing the two assistants from Lyon
Richards told Sky Sports News:
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“The manager who comes in needs to be able to get us going straight away. We haven’t got any time to settle in or blend in. We need to get going from the start. Whoever it is, whether it is Garde, let’s hope they can do that. If they speak French obviously it is going to be easier for them [the French players] to understand how they want to play. Let’s hope he speaks just as good English as French because we’re in England. When I went to Fiorentina I had to learn Italian and I had to try to adapt.”


I wonder whether his comment about the French players was a veiled criticism of our francophile squad members.

It seems fair enough to me

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1924 on: October 30, 2015, 01:17:48 PM »
Someone's just put a tenner on Galtier. He's 2/1 at bet365 now.
Garde out at 4/6 from 4/7.

You're not far wrong. I could put a tenner on me being the next manager in the Betfair exchange market and miraculously appear in the top ten favourites.


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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1925 on: October 30, 2015, 01:20:55 PM »
Sadly there does seem to be this "Little Englander" attitude surround Remi Garde.  "I don't know much about him, so he's obvious rubbish".


Maybe from some quarters, but I'm happy to admit I'm concerned about this chaps credentials, especially as he absolutely needs to hit the ground running.  I'm not sure that being 'foreign' to the PL is an issue in this regard, but I'd prefer somebody who has been here and done it (Moyes for example).  People having doubts about a relatively new manager isnt' really surprising given our recent luck with our managers.

Or, for the sake of argument let's take Moyes out of the equation. He's in a job and (not that it means a great deal) says that he is staying there. Who is your second choice? Third choice? It's not a long list of managers who are experienced in the Premier League, unqualified successes and out of work (or willing to leave a current job) to join a side bottom of the league.

Bringing Moyes back into the equation - as Moyes is famous for starting extremely slowly and only picking things up later in the season, why is he any more likely to 'hit the ground running' than anybody else; as he has never really done that before?

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1926 on: October 30, 2015, 01:30:18 PM »
Sadly there does seem to be this "Little Englander" attitude surround Remi Garde.  "I don't know much about him, so he's obvious rubbish".


Maybe from some quarters, but I'm happy to admit I'm concerned about this chaps credentials, especially as he absolutely needs to hit the ground running.  I'm not sure that being 'foreign' to the PL is an issue in this regard, but I'd prefer somebody who has been here and done it (Moyes for example).  People having doubts about a relatively new manager isnt' really surprising given our recent luck with our managers.

Or, for the sake of argument let's take Moyes out of the equation. He's in a job and (not that it means a great deal) says that he is staying there. Who is your second choice? Third choice? It's not a long list of managers who are experienced in the Premier League, unqualified successes and out of work (or willing to leave a current job) to join a side bottom of the league.

Bringing Moyes back into the equation - as Moyes is famous for starting extremely slowly and only picking things up later in the season, why is he any more likely to 'hit the ground running' than anybody else; as he has never really done that before?


It's a fair challenge, Dave.  I was just saying that wanting experience doesn't make somebody a "Little-Englander".

I would hope that Moyes and Rodgers have been approached.  I would hope that they have steared WELL clear of Pearson.  All with experience, only 2 I'd like to see in our dugout.  For a change, we are managerles at a time when 2 coaches I like (and you conceivably imaine might take the Villa job on) are available.

There seems to be a groundswell on here for Garde, but the fact he's an unknown quanity makes me nervous, rather than excited.   

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1927 on: October 30, 2015, 01:31:52 PM »
Kevin MacDonald confirming that Remi Garde is in line for the job:

"He's got a good pedigree as a coach and obviously the hierarchy think he's the man for the job."

http://www.suttoncoldfieldobserver.co.uk/Aston-Villa-Remi-Garde-White-Hart-Lane-admits/story-28084874-detail/story.html




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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1928 on: October 30, 2015, 01:36:13 PM »
Premier League footballers have had it easy for the last 15-20 years. Everything is laid on a plate for them.  For them to finish football and get stuck in to learning the trade of a manager is too time consuming and difficult. As this would mean starting at the bottom, the money would be peanuts compared with what they can pick up as a pundit.

 Most British youngish managers around now had playing careers further down the league. Even for them it is a big step to move to a big club.

The above is why I think we should be looking for a foreign manager that has the experience of regular Champions League football and top domestic league football.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1929 on: October 30, 2015, 01:36:44 PM »
This outpouring of grief from the massed ranks of pundit land, and this all consuming desire that we simply must appoint a British manager (Alan McInally the other night was indignant at the idea that Garde might take over, "Can't be French! Just can't be!") does seem a bit strange. I mean, it's not as if they kick up too much of a fuss about the lack of English/British players in the Prem, and particularly scarce in the leading sides. And anytime the idea of a quota gets a periodic mention, they all seem to howl in mock disgust, because there's no way that giving them a chance to actually play the game would improve English players (apparently). So why all the fuss about bringing in a foreign manager?

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1930 on: October 30, 2015, 01:37:58 PM »
Is it the fact he's foreign?  Or inexperienced?

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1931 on: October 30, 2015, 01:42:18 PM »
The UN went down the foreign route a few years back and look how irrelevant it is nowadays. What we need is a system of alliances, treaties and gunboat democracy. All headed up by John Sillet and Arthur Cox.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1932 on: October 30, 2015, 01:43:06 PM »
Kevin MacDonald confirming that Remi Garde is in line for the job:

"He's got a good pedigree as a coach and obviously the hierarchy think he's the man for the job."

http://www.suttoncoldfieldobserver.co.uk/Aston-Villa-Remi-Garde-White-Hart-Lane-admits/story-28084874-detail/story.html

Well he sounds pretty sure.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1933 on: October 30, 2015, 01:44:23 PM »
Kevin MacDonald confirming that Remi Garde is in line for the job:

"He's got a good pedigree as a coach and obviously the hierarchy think he's the man for the job."

http://www.suttoncoldfieldobserver.co.uk/Aston-Villa-Remi-Garde-White-Hart-Lane-admits/story-28084874-detail/story.html

Well he sounds pretty sure.

i'd say so!

OK, well he will have my best wishes in what will be an incrediably tough job.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #1934 on: October 30, 2015, 01:46:43 PM »
Is it the fact he's foreign?  Or inexperienced?

I think it's more the foreign thing that is worrying people more than the experience - if we announced that we were hiring Francesco Guidolin or some other foreign type who has been managing consistently since the 1980s then they would still be saying that we should be hiring Nigel Pearson or Sean Dyche.

 


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