Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?

[Fasth56]

Duverne is at Montpellier I think.

back to Moyes for a moment, S_H your solution to different to the last 6 years (4 years of which we were managed by a dour scotsmen playing largely 'functional' football) is to go for a dour scotsman who plays functional football?  Do you not think through what you're typing?  What you're actually bursting to say is that you want Lerner to spend fuckloads of money and you think Moyes is more likely to demand that than Garde, just be honest.

I don't know what Moyes nationality has got to do with anything.
Moyes will stan up to Lerner and Fox which is what we need. Irrespective of that he knows the PL inside out and that's what we need to stay in this league, not some gamble on an out of work bloke who's never worked as a manager outside of France.

The same way he stood up to Kenwright and demanded to spend shedloads of cash. Koeman had never worked in the premier league neither had Pochettino who had only worked in Spain and only had a win ratio of 34% at Espanyol.

[john e]

I like the idea of Garde for no other reason than its a bit different,
 I really know nothing about him only what had been said now he's linked, and I wasn't a massive Moyes fan even when he was at Everton, the Everton fans wern't  crying many tears when he left, but obviously we are in a desperate situation now,

its got a bit of the Gunnar Solskjaer about it, which many of us got excited about including me,
I don't believe Moyes is a cast iron success as he's failed at his last two posts, but he maybe safer hands than Garde as he must be a bigger risk
but the very phrase of 'safer hands' has always put me off anything

 I'm a gambler by nature, so it would be Garde for me

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Not sure what to think about Moyes. I'm not even sure he's available and given the choice I pretty much bet he'd want to stay in Spain. The only thing that makes him a possibility is the president of Real Sociedad hinted before the their game yesterday that Moyes' job was safe until January, when they'd likely review/sack him. My guess is Moyes knows he's on borrowed time and may, just may see the Villa job as an opportunity to leave Spain with what's left of his reputation still intact.

I wouldn't completely be against the idea of him rolling up at Villa Park if he'd be willing to accept a seven month contract.

[VillaAlways]

Is this a joke?

@SkySportsNewsHQ: Sky Sources: Gus Poyet on shortlist for vacant Aston Villa manager job #SSNHQ

[paul_e]

Were we not in such a porous position, I would laud the foresight of Garde, but here we are bottom of the league with moral at rock bottom and in dire need of an injection of grit and determination to try and arrest the slide. Surely this is not the time to start an experiment? We need someone who knows how the premier league works, knows how to organize a team to be difficult to beat and is able to deal with the pressures of being the manager of a club that the neutral fan would love to see drop out…. For me that simply has to be Moyes.

do we need girt and determinaton, is it a lack of 'fight and workrate that has caused the problems?

I'm not picking on you in particular, there are loads of comments like this on here, but I hate the constant British 'must work harder' mentality to failure, hard work helps but so does being trained and having the tools to do your job.

but do you think a manager who has signed Fellaini twice and signed Tim Cahill is going to be happy with Gil and Grealish as his attacking central midfield options?

Fellaini and Cahill seem to me to both be 'winners' as in strong personalities/driven individuals/people who do not go hiding.

Gill and Grealish, bless, may never be that.

Point I'm trying to make is Moyes doesn't sign based on height alone.

What makes someone a winner and, bless, makes someone else not one?  Is it a willingness to kick other players in the air if they get in your way?  Is it a willingness to run your bollocks off in defence?  Someone really needs to tell Leo Messi to up his game so he becomes a winner.

Sarcasm aside the point I'm getting at is that 'being a winner' is an impossible to quantify attribute that too many people confuse with workrate and determination.  Knowing what your role in the team is and how to best perform that role is the most important thing and nothing from what we've seen of Gil or Grealish suggests they are incapable of doing both of those things.

[ClaretAndBlueBlood]

Having just heard Dwight Yorke on Talkshite, I'm convinced he's the man for us. As he said, he'd be ideal after having spent 10 years at the club, having a great relationship with the fans, got his coaching badges and been a pundit on loads of games on Sky over the years. And he's not one of these managers who don't do anything but keep on getting jobs (take that, Allardyce!). Yep he's the man for me alright!

Oh Dear Oh Dear Oh Dear

Stop begging for a job Dwight.  It's embarrassing.

I've been going down Villa Park for nearly 50 years, I get on great with most of the fans who sit by me, I have got my level 2 coaching badge and I talk a great game in the pub. Yep, I'm  a villa man through and through, I am definitely the man for the job!!!

[Axl Rose]

"Sky Sources: Gus Poyet on shortlist for vacant Aston Villa manager job"

er

I would jump off Tokyo tower.

[Wiggz]

Let's be honest. Whomever takes over a) has a huge challenge on their hands this year (which I personally think ANYONE will lose..) and b) needs to be in it for the long haul.

We also want somebody with an ounce of previous in terms of managing a top flight club that hasn't ended in disaster.

I've just seen "Poyet" thrown into the ring.....basically only because he'll be cheap as he's a free agent!

Lerner, above all else, is a business man, and a fairly successful one by all accounts. Do we honestly believe that he would jeopardise the chance to sell the club for any sort of profit, or indeed the chance to get his hands on that TV money next year, by signing off on an appointment of another journeyman or novice? Surely he's not that stupid! The argument could be made that he did last year.......and I couldn't argue against that.

This year, there are a few outstanding candidates who are free agents. Would Rodgers want the job? Perhaps not...but he would be the club's first choice due to the combination of free agent and his pedigree of playing possession football. Moyes is on the list purely due to poor Soceidad form (until the weekend that is!) and his previous with Everton. Outside of them though...who else, that is available, has done anything of note?

Pearson would be a PR nightmare, and I'm not convinced he'd deliver anything over and above Sherwood's tenure. Garde, Poyet, Dyche, etc....nope!

For me, the only 3 realistic choices are, Rodgers, Moyes and Laudrup. I'd probably lean towards Moyes as a leading candidate if we could get him....;but Villa won't due to cost.

[ozzjim]

Is this a joke?

@SkySportsNewsHQ: Sky Sources: Gus Poyet on shortlist for vacant Aston Villa manager job #SSNHQ

Someone evidently just left a turd in the away dressing room at VP. Only conclusive evidence there is.

[dicedlam]

Gus fucking Poyet!!!

Christ on a bike...

[villabear]

Is this a joke?

@SkySportsNewsHQ: Sky Sources: Gus Poyet on shortlist for vacant Aston Villa manager job #SSNHQ

Failed at Brighton, then at Sunderland. Oh yes let's get him in. FFS

[Clampy]

Is this a joke?

@SkySportsNewsHQ: Sky Sources: Gus Poyet on shortlist for vacant Aston Villa manager job #SSNHQ

Failed at Brighton, then at Sunderland. Oh yes let's get him in. FFS

Just because SSN says he's on the shortlist, it doesn't mean he actually is.

[dave shelley]

I just came in and put the telly on and saw that yellow strap on SSN claiming Poyet on the shortlist.  I'm still sitting here shaking my head.  If this is true, and my hope is that as an out of work manager he's expressed his interest in the job and Sky are just running with it.  I can't believe that we would be so stupid as to go down that line.  I'm genuinely scared for this club if this is the truth.  Shortlist doesn't necessarily mean the job is his, please no.

[Toronto Villa]

Is this a joke?

@SkySportsNewsHQ: Sky Sources: Gus Poyet on shortlist for vacant Aston Villa manager job #SSNHQ

Failed at Brighton, then at Sunderland. Oh yes let's get him in. FFS

Just because SSN says he's on the shortlist, it doesn't mean he actually is.

correct. Before anyone jumps of the bridge please cast an eye back to the summer when none of the muppets we were linked with in the transfer window joined the club. And instead we signed players that were the very opposite of the types of players we were linked with. Also, from a media standpoint it's totally within reason for them to throw any old bollocks name at the job. It's their job to keep the audience engaged even if it is utter nonsense.

[Mr Diggles]

Is this a joke?

@SkySportsNewsHQ: Sky Sources: Gus Poyet on shortlist for vacant Aston Villa manager job #SSNHQ

Failed at Brighton, then at Sunderland. Oh yes let's get him in. FFS

Just because SSN says he's on the shortlist, it doesn't mean he actually is.

I'm sure we said that about McLeish once upon a while.