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Author Topic: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?  (Read 294439 times)

Offline claretandblue barmy

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #765 on: October 26, 2015, 12:53:54 PM »
I wonder if Yorke really fancies himself as the manager or just the idea of the 2million pay off ... Delusional

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #766 on: October 26, 2015, 12:57:00 PM »
I just cant see a better manager on the list than Moyes. Did fantastic at Preston and over 11 year period kept Everton very competitive with a moderate budget.  He was bound to of signed some shockers over the period he was in charge but also picked up some very useful players.

but do you think a manager who has signed Fellaini twice and signed Tim Cahill is going to be happy with Gil and Grealish as his attacking central midfield options?

This is the crux, we need a manager who is suited to working with the squad we have, blundering through until January when we can let a manager put his mark on the squad isn't really an option, we need to perform well and pick up a decent number of points in the next 2 months.

To be fair, he signed Juan Mata as well. Okay, he didn't use him all that well, but I don't think you can infer anything based off who he's signed - it speaks more about available resources than anything.

Actually Mata perfectly explains the point, he signed an attacking central midfielder who had been superb playing in the hole and then played him as a right winger. In the centre of midfield, first and foremost, he wants players who compete in the air.  The only one of those we have is Sanchez.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #767 on: October 26, 2015, 12:58:12 PM »
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How often do British managers learn another language and apply for jobs in other countries?

How true is that statement? The great majority of the "foreign" managers have such good command of the English language that it helps them succeed, but ultimately those that do are good managers in the first place.

Offline FranzBiberkopf

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #768 on: October 26, 2015, 01:00:10 PM »
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but do you think a manager who has signed Fellaini twice and signed Tim Cahill is going to be happy with Gil and Grealish as his attacking central midfield options?

Fellaini and Cahill seem to me to both be 'winners' as in strong personalities/driven individuals/people who do not go hiding.

Gill and Grealish, bless, may never be that.

Point I'm trying to make is Moyes doesn't sign based on height alone.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #769 on: October 26, 2015, 01:01:06 PM »
I was thinking that this morning. An out of work British manager is far more likely to work on his golf handicap than take time to learn a language.

Why bother though? These pesky foreigners should all speak English anyway and everybody understands the universal language of SHOUTING.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #770 on: October 26, 2015, 01:05:07 PM »
Were we not in such a porous position, I would laud the foresight of Garde, but here we are bottom of the league with moral at rock bottom and in dire need of an injection of grit and determination to try and arrest the slide. Surely this is not the time to start an experiment? We need someone who knows how the premier league works, knows how to organize a team to be difficult to beat and is able to deal with the pressures of being the manager of a club that the neutral fan would love to see drop out…. For me that simply has to be Moyes.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #771 on: October 26, 2015, 01:13:09 PM »
Moyes would be the ideal choice. He'd stabilise us, make us a lot more solid and he's got the experience to go with it. The idea of a foreign coach is intriguing as well though. Southampton and Swansea have benefited from it. If it is Garde, it's an interesting and brave choice.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #772 on: October 26, 2015, 01:15:22 PM »
I think Sherwood had grit and determination. So could any bloke out of the stand.

People talk as if the Premier League is some weird, obscure league that only locals could possibly understand.

I bet Garde knows as much about our players as Moyes does!

Also, Moyes doesn't do wingers. So that's about six players we're getting no use out of before he starts.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #773 on: October 26, 2015, 01:15:31 PM »
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How often do British managers learn another language and apply for jobs in other countries?

How true is that statement? The great majority of the "foreign" managers have such good command of the English language that it helps them succeed, but ultimately those that do are good managers in the first place.
Which is why I have a fair bit of respect for Steve Mclaren. He gets the piss ripped out of him, but he learnt a language and did well in Holland. Takes a lot of balls to go and do that.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #774 on: October 26, 2015, 01:16:18 PM »
I wouldn't call what McLaren did "learning a language".

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #775 on: October 26, 2015, 01:20:13 PM »
I think Sherwood had grit and determination. So could any bloke out of the stand.

People talk as if the Premier League is some weird, obscure league that only locals could possibly understand.

I bet Garde knows as much about our players as Moyes does!

Also, Moyes doesn't do wingers. So that's about six players we're getting no use out of before he starts.

That's one thing that did cross my mind last night. Can you imagine Grealish in a David Moyes team?

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #776 on: October 26, 2015, 01:21:17 PM »
Why would most British managers bother to learn a language and venture abroad, having to eat foreign muck, drive on the funny side of the road, and be exposed as tactical dinosaurs, when they see that even managers who serve up dire football that takes teams down or threatens to, get offered multi-million pound contracts in dear old blighty.    And after failing miserably they can then rock up as a pundit on SKy or BT telling talking a game they couldn't deliver themselves in a million years and telling every other manager where they are going wrong.  It's money for old rope.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #777 on: October 26, 2015, 01:23:06 PM »
"Sky Sources: Gus Poyet on shortlist for vacant Aston Villa manager job"

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #778 on: October 26, 2015, 01:23:09 PM »
I think Sherwood had grit and determination. So could any bloke out of the stand.

People talk as if the Premier League is some weird, obscure league that only locals could possibly understand.

I bet Garde knows as much about our players as Moyes does!

Also, Moyes doesn't do wingers. So that's about six players we're getting no use out of before he starts.

That's one thing that did cross my mind last night. Can you imagine Grealish in a David Moyes team?

No quite simply. Trouble is Grealish needs to "fit" himself into a slightly more conventional position without the ball or he will be carried a lot.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #779 on: October 26, 2015, 01:23:17 PM »
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How often do British managers learn another language and apply for jobs in other countries?

How true is that statement? The great majority of the "foreign" managers have such good command of the English language that it helps them succeed, but ultimately those that do are good managers in the first place.

Bumpf - the KO blow.

Oh and Roy Hodgson got lots of chances to manage in foreign countries. I am sure it helped no end that he is fluent in 5 languages.



 


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