Quote from: paul_e on April 24, 2016, 11:07:06 PMI blame the lawyers, if you out right state that you're sorry and take all the blame then any legal action has that to use against you so always have to give yourself wiggle room. Anyone with media training or who's running a company should know just that so these half apologies are unavoidable, I had to go through a training session about this myself a couple of years ago as part of us moving heavily into the US market and the basis was never offer anything that hasn't been asked for, never agree to anything without it being in writing (and then make sure it's reviewed before you reply) and never take responsibility for anything goes wrong, either personally or as a company.Before any resident legal folk get upset, I don't blame you individually, I blame the overly litigious abomination that a large amount of your profession has become.I'm not arguing with any of this but it would suggest that Lerner's semi coherent, rambling, mystical, nonsensical, non-apology of a post on the website was actually proof read by his lawyers? Fuck me, his choice of advisors is worse than his choice of managers. And I don't care whether he apologises or not, it's all his fault anyway and he can't fuck off soon enough for me.
I blame the lawyers, if you out right state that you're sorry and take all the blame then any legal action has that to use against you so always have to give yourself wiggle room. Anyone with media training or who's running a company should know just that so these half apologies are unavoidable, I had to go through a training session about this myself a couple of years ago as part of us moving heavily into the US market and the basis was never offer anything that hasn't been asked for, never agree to anything without it being in writing (and then make sure it's reviewed before you reply) and never take responsibility for anything goes wrong, either personally or as a company.Before any resident legal folk get upset, I don't blame you individually, I blame the overly litigious abomination that a large amount of your profession has become.
Quote from: Chico Hamilton III on April 25, 2016, 09:33:05 AMQuote from: paul_e on April 24, 2016, 11:07:06 PMI blame the lawyers, if you out right state that you're sorry and take all the blame then any legal action has that to use against you so always have to give yourself wiggle room. Anyone with media training or who's running a company should know just that so these half apologies are unavoidable, I had to go through a training session about this myself a couple of years ago as part of us moving heavily into the US market and the basis was never offer anything that hasn't been asked for, never agree to anything without it being in writing (and then make sure it's reviewed before you reply) and never take responsibility for anything goes wrong, either personally or as a company.Before any resident legal folk get upset, I don't blame you individually, I blame the overly litigious abomination that a large amount of your profession has become.I'm not arguing with any of this but it would suggest that Lerner's semi coherent, rambling, mystical, nonsensical, non-apology of a post on the website was actually proof read by his lawyers? Fuck me, his choice of advisors is worse than his choice of managers. And I don't care whether he apologises or not, it's all his fault anyway and he can't fuck off soon enough for me. Given he is a qualified lawyer I'd suggest not but that he does know enough to, much like a politician, ramble on without ever actually fully addressing the issue.
Quote from: paul_e on April 25, 2016, 09:40:23 AMQuote from: Chico Hamilton III on April 25, 2016, 09:33:05 AMQuote from: paul_e on April 24, 2016, 11:07:06 PMI blame the lawyers, if you out right state that you're sorry and take all the blame then any legal action has that to use against you so always have to give yourself wiggle room. Anyone with media training or who's running a company should know just that so these half apologies are unavoidable, I had to go through a training session about this myself a couple of years ago as part of us moving heavily into the US market and the basis was never offer anything that hasn't been asked for, never agree to anything without it being in writing (and then make sure it's reviewed before you reply) and never take responsibility for anything goes wrong, either personally or as a company.Before any resident legal folk get upset, I don't blame you individually, I blame the overly litigious abomination that a large amount of your profession has become.I'm not arguing with any of this but it would suggest that Lerner's semi coherent, rambling, mystical, nonsensical, non-apology of a post on the website was actually proof read by his lawyers? Fuck me, his choice of advisors is worse than his choice of managers. And I don't care whether he apologises or not, it's all his fault anyway and he can't fuck off soon enough for me. Given he is a qualified lawyer I'd suggest not but that he does know enough to, much like a politician, ramble on without ever actually fully addressing the issue.I'd forgotten about Randy's GCSE in Law.
Quote from: Chico Hamilton III on April 25, 2016, 09:46:29 AMQuote from: paul_e on April 25, 2016, 09:40:23 AMQuote from: Chico Hamilton III on April 25, 2016, 09:33:05 AMQuote from: paul_e on April 24, 2016, 11:07:06 PMI blame the lawyers, if you out right state that you're sorry and take all the blame then any legal action has that to use against you so always have to give yourself wiggle room. Anyone with media training or who's running a company should know just that so these half apologies are unavoidable, I had to go through a training session about this myself a couple of years ago as part of us moving heavily into the US market and the basis was never offer anything that hasn't been asked for, never agree to anything without it being in writing (and then make sure it's reviewed before you reply) and never take responsibility for anything goes wrong, either personally or as a company.Before any resident legal folk get upset, I don't blame you individually, I blame the overly litigious abomination that a large amount of your profession has become.I'm not arguing with any of this but it would suggest that Lerner's semi coherent, rambling, mystical, nonsensical, non-apology of a post on the website was actually proof read by his lawyers? Fuck me, his choice of advisors is worse than his choice of managers. And I don't care whether he apologises or not, it's all his fault anyway and he can't fuck off soon enough for me. Given he is a qualified lawyer I'd suggest not but that he does know enough to, much like a politician, ramble on without ever actually fully addressing the issue.I'd forgotten about Randy's GCSE in Law.that cock cant tie his shoe laces, IF his got GCSE in Law, he will have bought it.
Quote from: Tony Erdington on April 25, 2016, 10:19:38 AMQuote from: Chico Hamilton III on April 25, 2016, 09:46:29 AMQuote from: paul_e on April 25, 2016, 09:40:23 AMQuote from: Chico Hamilton III on April 25, 2016, 09:33:05 AMQuote from: paul_e on April 24, 2016, 11:07:06 PMI blame the lawyers, if you out right state that you're sorry and take all the blame then any legal action has that to use against you so always have to give yourself wiggle room. Anyone with media training or who's running a company should know just that so these half apologies are unavoidable, I had to go through a training session about this myself a couple of years ago as part of us moving heavily into the US market and the basis was never offer anything that hasn't been asked for, never agree to anything without it being in writing (and then make sure it's reviewed before you reply) and never take responsibility for anything goes wrong, either personally or as a company.Before any resident legal folk get upset, I don't blame you individually, I blame the overly litigious abomination that a large amount of your profession has become.I'm not arguing with any of this but it would suggest that Lerner's semi coherent, rambling, mystical, nonsensical, non-apology of a post on the website was actually proof read by his lawyers? Fuck me, his choice of advisors is worse than his choice of managers. And I don't care whether he apologises or not, it's all his fault anyway and he can't fuck off soon enough for me. Given he is a qualified lawyer I'd suggest not but that he does know enough to, much like a politician, ramble on without ever actually fully addressing the issue.I'd forgotten about Randy's GCSE in Law.that cock cant tie his shoe laces, IF his got GCSE in Law, he will have bought it.Or maybe he's a fully qualified lawyer who's registered on the US Bar. As I've said before it's very easy to call him thick but being incapable of running a business and being thick are very different things. Incompetent is a much better term for him.
I still reckon he's thick. Any old billionaire's son can get a decent education
Something I didn't realise until recently is that whilst he was going through school, his dad wasn't a billionaire. The money came when RL was in his 20s.
Quote from: PeterWithe on April 25, 2016, 03:18:31 PMSomething I didn't realise until recently is that whilst he was going through school, his dad wasn't a billionaire. The money came when RL was in his 20s.Jeez.... The founder of AMEX..American Express...suddenly made a financial breakthrough from millionaire to BILLIONAIRE when Randy was in his 20's....what a lot of trollope.
Quote from: alftitimus on April 30, 2016, 07:36:08 AMQuote from: PeterWithe on April 25, 2016, 03:18:31 PMSomething I didn't realise until recently is that whilst he was going through school, his dad wasn't a billionaire. The money came when RL was in his 20s.Jeez.... The founder of AMEX..American Express...suddenly made a financial breakthrough from millionaire to BILLIONAIRE when Randy was in his 20's....what a lot of trollope.I'd have thought that somebody with such a demonstrably sneery attitude towards the subject would know that MBNA (which Al Lerner turned into a huge company) and American Express (which is over 150 years old and nothing to do with the Lerner family) aren't the same thing.
I can safely reassure everyone that there is not a lawyer in the world who would have advised Randy Lerner not to apologise for relegation for legal reasons.