Randy Lerner

[in exile]

I hope it's more the case that he no longer needs it for the occasional flight to Birmingham.

Maybe Ellison's buying it off him.

Could all be part of the deal

[Chico Hamilton III]

I hope it's more the case that he no longer needs it for the occasional flight to Birmingham.

Maybe Ellison's buying it off him.

Could all be part of the deal

Buy a second hand jet and get a free football team thrown in

[olaftab]

I hope it's more the case that he no longer needs it for the occasional flight to Birmingham.

Maybe Ellison's buying it off him.

Looking at numbers against his name I would suggest Ellison already has one if not two.

[curiousorange]

I hope it's more the case that he no longer needs it for the occasional flight to Birmingham.

Maybe Ellison's buying it off him.

Looking at numbers against his name I would suggest Ellison already has one if not two.

Airports, probably.

[SteveD]

He tried to apologise but I can't quite bring himself. No problem with him being absent or knowing nothing about football, our undoing has been his catastrophic appointments. And their catastrophic recruitment. And their general attitude, lack of quality and professionalism. Villa is like a club abducted by aliens. The only thing worthy of the club and its name this season has been the fans. Remarkable and most of us are past the tipping point. But I won't buy the Lerner, the benign bumbler. He's way in over his head. I don't see a nice but misguided guy sanctioning those redundancies or offering us the first clue in how we're getting out of a deep hole.

[Jimbo]

It was like one of those modern apologies, when you own up to something, acknowledge what you've done, but don't apologise for it.

[Nunkin1965]

I remember reading about the demise of the Cleveland Browns somewhere years ago under the Lerner ownership and thinking to myself "But it wouldn't happen at Villa"

[ez]

It was like one of those modern apologies, when you own up to something, acknowledge what you've done, but don't apologise for it.

I remember a thread in off topic about modern day apologies.

[Witton Warrior]

It was like one of those modern apologies, when you own up to something, acknowledge what you've done, but don't apologise for it.

I remember a thread in off topic about modern day apologies.

"We need to draw a line under this and look at how we can move forward"

[Risso]

It was like one of those modern apologies, when you own up to something, acknowledge what you've done, but don't apologise for it.

I remember a thread in off topic about modern day apologies.

"We need to draw a line under this and look at how we can move forward"

Needs to start with an aggressive "Look..."

[brian green]

The standard non apology is the one that ends "for any offence I may have caused".  No you bastard, I shout at the TV/radio/newspaper, you mean "for the offence I caused".  No fucking "may have" about it.

[paul_e]

I blame the lawyers, if you out right state that you're sorry and take all the blame then any legal action has that to use against you so always have to give yourself wiggle room. Anyone with media training or who's running a company should know just that so these half apologies are unavoidable, I had to go through a training session about this myself a couple of years ago as part of us moving heavily into the US market and the basis was never offer anything that hasn't been asked for, never agree to anything without it being in writing (and then make sure it's reviewed before you reply) and never take responsibility for anything goes wrong, either personally or as a company.

Before any resident legal folk get upset, I don't blame you individually, I blame the overly litigious abomination that a large amount of your profession has become.

[pbavfckuwait]

I dont want his apologies, I just want him gone and as soon as possible, every day longer he is here is another damaging day for Aston Villa.

[peter w]

Yes true we should have! But God was out that day and Buddha doesn't like football and as far as Allah  is concerned he/she has never been pleased with us (I think).

So what I'm reading is that we've just evolved into a shit team?

[Chico Hamilton III]

I blame the lawyers, if you out right state that you're sorry and take all the blame then any legal action has that to use against you so always have to give yourself wiggle room. Anyone with media training or who's running a company should know just that so these half apologies are unavoidable, I had to go through a training session about this myself a couple of years ago as part of us moving heavily into the US market and the basis was never offer anything that hasn't been asked for, never agree to anything without it being in writing (and then make sure it's reviewed before you reply) and never take responsibility for anything goes wrong, either personally or as a company.

Before any resident legal folk get upset, I don't blame you individually, I blame the overly litigious abomination that a large amount of your profession has become.

I'm not arguing with any of this but it would suggest that Lerner's semi coherent, rambling, mystical, nonsensical, non-apology of a post on the website was actually proof read by his lawyers? Fuck me, his choice of advisors is worse than his choice of managers.

And I don't care whether he apologises or not, it's all his fault anyway and he can't fuck off soon enough for me.