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Offline Stirchley Villain

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3180 on: March 03, 2016, 09:22:17 PM »
If we were Marks and Spencer Fox would be prosecuted.


I'm not saying he's good at his job, or fit to run a newsagent but in the context of doing everything Lerner wanted, he's fullfilled his brief

I think keeping us in the PL would have headed this brief.


I don't. I don't think Lerner ever considered relegation when he employed him. He's American. We're spending millions more than other teams in that league even if we reduce our expenditure. How can team's with half our resources and wage bill finish above us with just decent managers and motivated players to fall back on? Impossible!

Staying in the PL would have been the be all and end all until a sale was secured.


As i said, he's American. They don't understand they don't understand the whole concept of relegation.

Why don't US sports leagues (NFL, NBA, MLB, etc.) follow the "promotion/relegation" model used in Europe?


"The objectives and the competitive landscape of the leagues are vastly different. The Premier League, La Liga, Series A, and Bundesliga compete with each other. As a result, there is great incentive to build great teams that dominate Europe since strong teams bring more money into the league and more money makes a stronger league.

American leagues, the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL don't have competition. However, they still have the objective of making the most money"
We'll have to agree to disagree.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3181 on: March 03, 2016, 09:27:55 PM »
If we were Marks and Spencer Fox would be prosecuted.


I'm not saying he's good at his job, or fit to run a newsagent but in the context of doing everything Lerner wanted, he's fullfilled his brief

I think keeping us in the PL would have headed this brief.


I don't. I don't think Lerner ever considered relegation when he employed him. He's American. We're spending millions more than other teams in that league even if we reduce our expenditure. How can team's with half our resources and wage bill finish above us with just decent managers and motivated players to fall back on? Impossible!

Staying in the PL would have been the be all and end all until a sale was secured.


As i said, he's American. They don't understand they don't understand the whole concept of relegation.

Why don't US sports leagues (NFL, NBA, MLB, etc.) follow the "promotion/relegation" model used in Europe?


"The objectives and the competitive landscape of the leagues are vastly different. The Premier League, La Liga, Series A, and Bundesliga compete with each other. As a result, there is great incentive to build great teams that dominate Europe since strong teams bring more money into the league and more money makes a stronger league.

American leagues, the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL don't have competition. However, they still have the objective of making the most money"
We'll have to agree to disagree.

yep. A score draw :o)

Offline Stirchley Villain

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3182 on: March 03, 2016, 09:33:44 PM »
If we were Marks and Spencer Fox would be prosecuted.


I'm not saying he's good at his job, or fit to run a newsagent but in the context of doing everything Lerner wanted, he's fullfilled his brief

I think keeping us in the PL would have headed this brief.


I don't. I don't think Lerner ever considered relegation when he employed him. He's American. We're spending millions more than other teams in that league even if we reduce our expenditure. How can team's with half our resources and wage bill finish above us with just decent managers and motivated players to fall back on? Impossible!

Staying in the PL would have been the be all and end all until a sale was secured.


As i said, he's American. They don't understand they don't understand the whole concept of relegation.

Why don't US sports leagues (NFL, NBA, MLB, etc.) follow the "promotion/relegation" model used in Europe?


"The objectives and the competitive landscape of the leagues are vastly different. The Premier League, La Liga, Series A, and Bundesliga compete with each other. As a result, there is great incentive to build great teams that dominate Europe since strong teams bring more money into the league and more money makes a stronger league.

American leagues, the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL don't have competition. However, they still have the objective of making the most money"
We'll have to agree to disagree.

yep. A score draw :o)

Nah... I still win.

Offline Chris Harte

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3183 on: March 04, 2016, 08:37:40 AM »
Staying in the PL would have been the be all and end all until a sale was secured.

Yep. And the reason is because he surely can't be dumb enough to think his income won't fall if the club aren't in the PL.

Offline Vegas

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3184 on: March 04, 2016, 08:56:18 AM »


As i said, he's American. They don't understand they don't understand the whole concept of relegation.



This is perhaps the most patronising thing I've read on here in a long while.  It's not a very hard concept to grasp, even if major league US sports don't use it.

Offline in exile

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3185 on: March 04, 2016, 02:44:56 PM »
As patronising as it may be, it's right isn't it?

Offline Chris Jameson

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3186 on: March 04, 2016, 02:50:00 PM »


As i said, he's American. They don't understand they don't understand the whole concept of relegation.



This is perhaps the most patronising thing I've read on here in a long while.  It's not a very hard concept to grasp, even if major league US sports don't use it.

Doesn't seem patronising to me, I don't follow American sports but as far as I can gather they don't have relegation.

Could have just left it at as Lerner, Krulak etc just don't understand.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3187 on: March 04, 2016, 03:03:32 PM »
Real football has been growing in popularity for at least the last 15 years in the States, particularly the European leagues.

According to the man himself (on one of his posts here) Krulak was a big fan of the Bundesliga in the 1990s, so I'd say our American cousins are probably familiar with the concept of relegation by now.

Our lot probably just thought they were well insulated from it with the amounts spent.  How you spend it and to whom you entrust that spending to was where they shanked it.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3188 on: March 04, 2016, 03:19:43 PM »
Krulak claimed a lot of things, mostly bollocks though.

Online ChicagoLion

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3189 on: March 04, 2016, 03:33:50 PM »
I live here but to suggest that we are being relegated because he is American is pretty daft.
We are being relegated because he is Fkin useless.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3190 on: March 04, 2016, 03:49:17 PM »
We've had this stupidity about how he doesn't know relegation exists for years and it's childish in the extreme. There's enough to criticise him for without making it up.

Offline Stirchley Villain

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3191 on: March 04, 2016, 03:52:39 PM »
It's like saying you invest money in the stock market for a living but don't know you can lose it.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3192 on: March 05, 2016, 05:22:39 PM »

6 fucking years notice you have had Mr Lerner.... SIX years .... for you to get it right and you have still fucked it up. How could you do that ....

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3193 on: March 05, 2016, 05:44:17 PM »
because he can

Offline Irish villain

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3194 on: March 05, 2016, 10:57:19 PM »

6 fucking years notice you have had Mr Lerner.... SIX years .... for you to get it right and you have still fucked it up. How could you do that ....

We have been well warned and we continued to sign dross, cross our fingers and hope to avoid the drop.

Getting well and truly spanked out of this league this season. What was the 'project' again?

 


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