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Offline aj2k77

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3165 on: March 03, 2016, 07:53:31 PM »
In other news, Leicester City post a £26m profit ...

In other news, Tom Fox announces new kit deal worse than the previous one....

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3166 on: March 03, 2016, 07:54:01 PM »
At the moment I wouldn't be against a clean sweep. Maybe we need it. Though I would keep Garde as long as he gets everything he wants to really turn the squad over and bring in his own team. Mind you you'd have to think Villa being in the Championship makes us far less attractive to the coaches he wanted to bring in. Either way Fox simply had to go.


Still not sure how Fox is guilty of doing anything apart from following orders

You genuinely think the Chief Executive of a £100m business has absolutely no say in how things are done?

I believe he just did what Lerner okayed. Like Faulkner before him
I imagine he would have made suggestions/strategies to Lerner which were ok'd. As things have continued to spiral he has to go from that role. I have no problem with the gang of three going, I just hope and pray any new structure is better thought out and more appropriately staffed.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3167 on: March 03, 2016, 07:55:00 PM »
At the moment I wouldn't be against a clean sweep. Maybe we need it. Though I would keep Garde as long as he gets everything he wants to really turn the squad over and bring in his own team. Mind you you'd have to think Villa being in the Championship makes us far less attractive to the coaches he wanted to bring in. Either way Fox simply had to go.


Still not sure how Fox is guilty of doing anything apart from following orders

You genuinely think the Chief Executive of a £100m business has absolutely no say in how things are done?

I believe he just did what Lerner okayed. Like Faulkner before him

Wasn't it widely reported at the time that Fox had to convince Lerner to let him give Lambert the boot and bring in Sherwood?

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3168 on: March 03, 2016, 07:55:59 PM »
If we were Marks and Spencer Fox would be prosecuted.


I'm not saying he's good at his job, or fit to run a newsagent but in the context of doing everything Lerner wanted, he's fullfilled his brief

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3169 on: March 03, 2016, 07:58:04 PM »
At the moment I wouldn't be against a clean sweep. Maybe we need it. Though I would keep Garde as long as he gets everything he wants to really turn the squad over and bring in his own team. Mind you you'd have to think Villa being in the Championship makes us far less attractive to the coaches he wanted to bring in. Either way Fox simply had to go.


Still not sure how Fox is guilty of doing anything apart from following orders

You genuinely think the Chief Executive of a £100m business has absolutely no say in how things are done?

I believe he just did what Lerner okayed. Like Faulkner before him

Wasn't it widely reported at the time that Fox had to convince Lerner to let him give Lambert the boot and bring in Sherwood?


well i'm not sure that was a bad decision. The boot bit, but its clear Garde was Lerner's decison, as was TSM, as was Lambert, as was the rest, apart from MON. Look at who's managed us, with the exception of Lambert it's been one wft? appointment after another. Houllier? I like him but it was leftfield. TSM - well we KNOW he was Lerner's baby. That summer of chasing OGS with private jets taking off on the hour - Lerner. Lambert, Lerner's 2nd choice but at least vaguely sane even if you were vaguely suspicious that he only got the gig because he looked like MON's retarded brother.. Sherwood, again a guy who you really didn't want managing at Villa based on his time at Spurs. Garde another WTF?. Our board just do Lerner's bidding and sacking a load of yesmen for more yes men like Hollis won't solve anything when the guy in charge is the problem
« Last Edit: March 03, 2016, 08:12:30 PM by sickbeggar »

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3170 on: March 03, 2016, 08:04:38 PM »
At the moment I wouldn't be against a clean sweep. Maybe we need it. Though I would keep Garde as long as he gets everything he wants to really turn the squad over and bring in his own team. Mind you you'd have to think Villa being in the Championship makes us far less attractive to the coaches he wanted to bring in. Either way Fox simply had to go.


Still not sure how Fox is guilty of doing anything apart from following orders

You genuinely think the Chief Executive of a £100m business has absolutely no say in how things are done?

I believe he just did what Lerner okayed. Like Faulkner before him

Wasn't it widely reported at the time that Fox had to convince Lerner to let him give Lambert the boot and bring in Sherwood?


well i'm not sure that was a bad decision. The boot bit, but its clear Garde was Lerner's decison, as was TSM, as was Lambert, as was the rest, apart from MON

Wasn't Lambert's contract extension Fox's idea based on a couple of wins at the start of the season? That was mind boggling.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3171 on: March 03, 2016, 08:13:38 PM »
At the moment I wouldn't be against a clean sweep. Maybe we need it. Though I would keep Garde as long as he gets everything he wants to really turn the squad over and bring in his own team. Mind you you'd have to think Villa being in the Championship makes us far less attractive to the coaches he wanted to bring in. Either way Fox simply had to go.


Still not sure how Fox is guilty of doing anything apart from following orders

You genuinely think the Chief Executive of a £100m business has absolutely no say in how things are done?

I believe he just did what Lerner okayed. Like Faulkner before him

Wasn't it widely reported at the time that Fox had to convince Lerner to let him give Lambert the boot and bring in Sherwood?


well i'm not sure that was a bad decision. The boot bit, but its clear Garde was Lerner's decison, as was TSM, as was Lambert, as was the rest, apart from MON

Wasn't Lambert's contract extension Fox's idea based on a couple of wins at the start of the season? That was mind boggling.

# He must have asked the guy in charge though surely? Whatever happens to Fox i don't think it's going to reduce the odds of Lerner spending this summer trying to persuade Ade Mafeke, of The Burundi Amstel Leagues Champions Vital'O FC to come on over to save us based on a recommendation from Keith Chegwin. The guy's a fruitloop and anything is possible
« Last Edit: March 03, 2016, 08:28:13 PM by sickbeggar »

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3172 on: March 03, 2016, 08:36:59 PM »
If we were Marks and Spencer Fox would be prosecuted.


I'm not saying he's good at his job, or fit to run a newsagent but in the context of doing everything Lerner wanted, he's fullfilled his brief

I think keeping us in the PL would have headed this brief.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3173 on: March 03, 2016, 08:46:48 PM »
If we were Marks and Spencer Fox would be prosecuted.


I'm not saying he's good at his job, or fit to run a newsagent but in the context of doing everything Lerner wanted, he's fullfilled his brief

I think keeping us in the PL would have headed this brief.


I don't. I don't think Lerner ever considered relegation when he employed him. He's American. We're spending millions more than other teams in that league even if we reduce our expenditure. How can team's with half our resources and wage bill finish above us with just decent managers and motivated players to fall back on? Impossible!

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3174 on: March 03, 2016, 08:52:22 PM »
If we were Marks and Spencer Fox would be prosecuted.


I'm not saying he's good at his job, or fit to run a newsagent but in the context of doing everything Lerner wanted, he's fullfilled his brief

I think keeping us in the PL would have headed this brief.


I don't. I don't think Lerner ever considered relegation when he employed him. He's American. We're spending millions more than other teams in that league even if we reduce our expenditure. How can team's with half our resources and wage bill finish above us with just decent managers and motivated players to fall back on? Impossible!

Staying in the PL would have been the be all and end all until a sale was secured.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2016, 08:58:05 PM by Stirchley Villain »

Offline sickbeggar

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3175 on: March 03, 2016, 09:02:12 PM »
If we were Marks and Spencer Fox would be prosecuted.


I'm not saying he's good at his job, or fit to run a newsagent but in the context of doing everything Lerner wanted, he's fullfilled his brief

I think keeping us in the PL would have headed this brief.


I don't. I don't think Lerner ever considered relegation when he employed him. He's American. We're spending millions more than other teams in that league even if we reduce our expenditure. How can team's with half our resources and wage bill finish above us with just decent managers and motivated players to fall back on? Impossible!

Dont be daft.


you only have to see the buoyant bolllocks fox was coming out with not long ago to see they didn't have a clue. "We're building something special" - They certainly are. That's from december last year - now if he's that in denial then, what the fuck was he like when he joined us?



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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3176 on: March 03, 2016, 09:17:31 PM »
At the moment I wouldn't be against a clean sweep. Maybe we need it. Though I would keep Garde as long as he gets everything he wants to really turn the squad over and bring in his own team. Mind you you'd have to think Villa being in the Championship makes us far less attractive to the coaches he wanted to bring in. Either way Fox simply had to go.


Still not sure how Fox is guilty of doing anything apart from following orders

You genuinely think the Chief Executive of a £100m business has absolutely no say in how things are done?

I believe he just did what Lerner okayed. Like Faulkner before him

Wasn't it widely reported at the time that Fox had to convince Lerner to let him give Lambert the boot and bring in Sherwood?


well i'm not sure that was a bad decision. The boot bit, but its clear Garde was Lerner's decison, as was TSM, as was Lambert, as was the rest, apart from MON. Look at who's managed us, with the exception of Lambert it's been one wft? appointment after another. Houllier? I like him but it was leftfield. TSM - well we KNOW he was Lerner's baby. That summer of chasing OGS with private jets taking off on the hour - Lerner. Lambert, Lerner's 2nd choice but at least vaguely sane even if you were vaguely suspicious that he only got the gig because he looked like MON's retarded brother.. Sherwood, again a guy who you really didn't want managing at Villa based on his time at Spurs. Garde another WTF?. Our board just do Lerner's bidding and sacking a load of yesmen for more yes men like Hollis won't solve anything when the guy in charge is the problem

which is why I fear you might get your wish of a obvious media type appointment next season in Pearson/Pulis
no WTF appointment that would be, the pundits will say its just what we need, and we will be stuck with that for the forseable

I'd rather gamble again on a WTF shot

Offline Stirchley Villain

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3177 on: March 03, 2016, 09:19:04 PM »
If we were Marks and Spencer Fox would be prosecuted.


I'm not saying he's good at his job, or fit to run a newsagent but in the context of doing everything Lerner wanted, he's fullfilled his brief

I think keeping us in the PL would have headed this brief.


I don't. I don't think Lerner ever considered relegation when he employed him. He's American. We're spending millions more than other teams in that league even if we reduce our expenditure. How can team's with half our resources and wage bill finish above us with just decent managers and motivated players to fall back on? Impossible!

Dont be daft.


you only have to see the buoyant bolllocks fox was coming out with not long ago to see they didn't have a clue. "We're building something special" - They certainly are. That's from december last year - now if he's that in denial then, what the fuck was he like when he joined us?

That was smoke and mirrors. what they've been saying for the past 5 years. Lerner's main objective was to stay in the PL until sale. Fox's brief was to achieve that whatever else came within. And I apologise for the don't be daft thing. It was retracted quickly after posting.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3178 on: March 03, 2016, 09:20:53 PM »
At the moment I wouldn't be against a clean sweep. Maybe we need it. Though I would keep Garde as long as he gets everything he wants to really turn the squad over and bring in his own team. Mind you you'd have to think Villa being in the Championship makes us far less attractive to the coaches he wanted to bring in. Either way Fox simply had to go.


Still not sure how Fox is guilty of doing anything apart from following orders

You genuinely think the Chief Executive of a £100m business has absolutely no say in how things are done?

I believe he just did what Lerner okayed. Like Faulkner before him

Wasn't it widely reported at the time that Fox had to convince Lerner to let him give Lambert the boot and bring in Sherwood?


well i'm not sure that was a bad decision. The boot bit, but its clear Garde was Lerner's decison, as was TSM, as was Lambert, as was the rest, apart from MON. Look at who's managed us, with the exception of Lambert it's been one wft? appointment after another. Houllier? I like him but it was leftfield. TSM - well we KNOW he was Lerner's baby. That summer of chasing OGS with private jets taking off on the hour - Lerner. Lambert, Lerner's 2nd choice but at least vaguely sane even if you were vaguely suspicious that he only got the gig because he looked like MON's retarded brother.. Sherwood, again a guy who you really didn't want managing at Villa based on his time at Spurs. Garde another WTF?. Our board just do Lerner's bidding and sacking a load of yesmen for more yes men like Hollis won't solve anything when the guy in charge is the problem

which is why I fear you might get your wish of a obvious media type appointment next season in Pearson/Pulis
no WTF appointment that would be, the pundits will say its just what we need, and we will be stuck with that for the forseable

I'd rather gamble again on a WTF shot

Houllier was a WTF appointment. And McLeish.

Offline sickbeggar

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #3179 on: March 03, 2016, 09:21:06 PM »
If we were Marks and Spencer Fox would be prosecuted.


I'm not saying he's good at his job, or fit to run a newsagent but in the context of doing everything Lerner wanted, he's fullfilled his brief

I think keeping us in the PL would have headed this brief.


I don't. I don't think Lerner ever considered relegation when he employed him. He's American. We're spending millions more than other teams in that league even if we reduce our expenditure. How can team's with half our resources and wage bill finish above us with just decent managers and motivated players to fall back on? Impossible!

Staying in the PL would have been the be all and end all until a sale was secured.


As i said, he's American. They don't understand  the whole concept of relegation.

Why don't US sports leagues (NFL, NBA, MLB, etc.) follow the "promotion/relegation" model used in Europe?


"The objectives and the competitive landscape of the leagues are vastly different. The Premier League, La Liga, Series A, and Bundesliga compete with each other. As a result, there is great incentive to build great teams that dominate Europe since strong teams bring more money into the league and more money makes a stronger league.

American leagues, the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL don't have competition. However, they still have the objective of making the most money"



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