As much as I loath Learner and what he has done to the club, I don't see the point of 'Learner out' protests. He wants out anyway, he's just selling to any bidder that comes along, and nor should he. If there is an interested party out there, I would imagine they are waiting to buy a championship team.
Maybe we should all take L plates to the last game and chuck em on the pitch.
Quote from: Taylor on February 20, 2016, 01:24:20 PMAs much as I loath Learner and what he has done to the club, I don't see the point of 'Learner out' protests. He wants out anyway, he's just selling to any bidder that comes along, and nor should he. If there is an interested party out there, I would imagine they are waiting to buy a championship team.Does he really want to sell? I suspect he wants to recoup the absolute maximum before bailing out. There will be an even more obvious slash and burn policy before he sells us to whoever will pony up the cash. Hold on to your seats...
Quote from: Locko on February 20, 2016, 01:50:01 PMQuote from: Taylor on February 20, 2016, 01:24:20 PMAs much as I loath Learner and what he has done to the club, I don't see the point of 'Learner out' protests. He wants out anyway, he's just selling to any bidder that comes along, and nor should he. If there is an interested party out there, I would imagine they are waiting to buy a championship team.Does he really want to sell? I suspect he wants to recoup the absolute maximum before bailing out. There will be an even more obvious slash and burn policy before he sells us to whoever will pony up the cash. Hold on to your seats...I wonder if he really wants to sell. I think a successful protest would encourage Lerner to sell/exit more rapidly. If he has the media constantly on his back it will provide pressure and motivation to sell as quickly as possible. No pressure and he could be here for years trying to recoup his investment a bit at a time.I've worked in a failing/struggling business (which Aston Villa is IMO) and the hostility/anger of customers quickly becomes an all consuming management headache. If Fox et al are taking a pounding from their stakeholders (sorry) then it makes a massive difference. Who'd sponsor Villa is there are protests every game? It would have wide ranging consequences in everything the wider management team at Villa do on a day to day basis. So I don't buy the fact that it won't make any difference - it will. A huge one. We should make it as uncomfortable for the management as we can - at the moment they've got an easy ride.
Quote from: Taylor on February 20, 2016, 01:24:20 PMAs much as I loath Learner and what he has done to the club, I don't see the point of 'Learner out' protests. He wants out anyway, he's just selling to any bidder that comes along, and nor should he. If there is an interested party out there, I would imagine they are waiting to buy a championship team.Lerner
She's a driving instructor, I believe.
What frightens me is that we aren't just a premier league club heading for a bumpy ride for a few years due to a couple of bad managers and a poor set of players, like say Boro, Derby, Fulham or even Forest, but we are a broken club on a fast spiral downwards like Leeds or Pompey. We all know that there isn't a quick fix in the summer - that a change of manager (rightly or wrongly) or the injection of 4 decent players will remedy. It is fundamentally broken, some of the players on paper aren't THAT bad and all of our recent managers aren't successively more shit than their predecessor. Look at the rate of demise of Leeds (when they fell quickly to Div 3) and Pompey and it was all about dreadful business decisions, asset stripping and downgrading without a proper infrastructure in place. I hope to God I am wrong but there is very little to cling onto right now.
Quote from: A Northern Soul on February 20, 2016, 01:51:03 AMWhat frightens me is that we aren't just a premier league club heading for a bumpy ride for a few years due to a couple of bad managers and a poor set of players, like say Boro, Derby, Fulham or even Forest, but we are a broken club on a fast spiral downwards like Leeds or Pompey. We all know that there isn't a quick fix in the summer - that a change of manager (rightly or wrongly) or the injection of 4 decent players will remedy. It is fundamentally broken, some of the players on paper aren't THAT bad and all of our recent managers aren't successively more shit than their predecessor. Look at the rate of demise of Leeds (when they fell quickly to Div 3) and Pompey and it was all about dreadful business decisions, asset stripping and downgrading without a proper infrastructure in place. I hope to God I am wrong but there is very little to cling onto right now.Good post. It has been clear for years that something very fundamental was wrong at villa and I am uncomfortable that I initially bought into a lot of the PR/spin about MON being the public enemy number one. MON was long gone by say 2012, we had made huge profits on some of his big signings and had additional seasons of Premier League cash to clear our financial problems.Anyway, that's beside the point. What is frustrating is this car crash has been coming for half a decade. The ineptness of our owners has been clear to see yet villa fans have been divided with half doing the other half on daft technicalities. I mean, siding with an absent billionaire letting our club burn over a low-paid member of staff? Come on, it's desperate.
"Not a motivated seller". I mean, this phrase sums up perfectly the meaningless, half-baked nonsense of the Lerner era. What on earth does it even mean? It's obfuscation of the highest order.