As fans, we seem to be being fed a stream of PR spin to cover up what is actually going on. This has today resulted in a massive gap being created between the supporters and the club. Can that gap be bridged? I very much doubt it unless some straight honest talking is carried out.I thought I would not see the dark depressing days of DOL and HDE again but we are here again and worse. These are unprecedented times that the club are facing and serious questions need to be asked and answered.
A special message for Lerner, Hollis and Fox:Fuck you; fuck you and the horses you rode in on, you set of useless, spineless, brainless, talentless, incompetent fucks.
As stated earlier, I do not see this as being done in any sense of spite by Lerner, it is due to his total incompetence, this is plain to see with the people he puts into positions, but what I can't get my head around is Fox and Arsestadt came from a very well run club, Arsenal, so must have some idea as to the foundations of running a department, division, whatever they are responsible for in a professional way. Hollis to early to say, Reilly worries me as his buys at Liverpool were not a great success.So I keep coming back to the same conclusion, Randy likes to employ people who will lie for him and face the day to day abuse, as stated earlier Dave Woodhall and not with hypocrisy but with hindsight, the General was the first of these cronies, Faulkner for certain another, now we have Fox and Hollis. My concern is these idiots are telling Randy what they are telling us, but Randy believes them and that he will hold on to the club until it turns the corner on this bit of inconvenience we are suffering at the moment.God help us.
Quote from: old man villa fan on February 02, 2016, 12:17:03 AMAs fans, we seem to be being fed a stream of PR spin to cover up what is actually going on. This has today resulted in a massive gap being created between the supporters and the club. Can that gap be bridged? I very much doubt it unless some straight honest talking is carried out.I thought I would not see the dark depressing days of DOL and HDE again but we are here again and worse. These are unprecedented times that the club are facing and serious questions need to be asked and answered.As time goes by I am increasingly uncomfortable with the way the club's version of what happened with MON became the accepted narrative. So many clubs outspend and out-compete with villa these days. DO we not share the same TV riches as they do? A few years ago we used to say 'going down would be a disaster, think of the TV money next year'. Then the following year we would spend, net £10m on freebies and bargain basement. I do not like what has been unfolding before our eyes and the way people have accepted the club's version every time.
Stilian Petrov - meh???I wish to god we had someone with his ability to look after the team on the field today.
Excuse the long post, wondering where things started to go so wrong, I wanted to see this information all in one place.When Lerner took over in 05/06 our squad included, Angel, Vassell, Baros, L Moore (joint top scorer with 8 goals) Hendrie, Whittingham, Solano, Davis, Bouma, Cahill, Mellberg, Laursen, Sorenson. We finished 16th, on 42 points, 8 points from safety.Ive listed the transfers we've made in Lerners era, sorry for reminding you of some of these...I've colour coded them... Red for flops, Orange for meh, what you'd expect for what we paid standard signings, a bit generous with some of these maybe. eg Enda Stevens 500k signed from shamrock rovers, didnt play but as expected. Agathe and Sutton signed at difficult time didn't feature much, as expected etc.Green for the undoubted succeses, I'm including Downing here because of what we got for him more than performances.06/07 Spent £17.15M Net Spend £14.1M Average League Spend £16MStilian PetrovDidier AgatheChris SuttonJohn CarewAshley YoungShaun Maloney07/08 Spent £16.25M Net Spend £6.25M Average League Spend £32.25MMarlon HarewoodZat KnightMoustapha SalifouWayne RoutledgeNigel Reo-Coker08/09 Spent £48.4M Net Spend £45.3M Average League Spend £33.5MCurtis DavisSteven SidwellBrad FriedelNicky ShoreyLuke YoungCarlos CuellarJames MilnerBrad GuzanEmile Heskey09/10 Spent £37.5M Net Spend £18.5M Average League Spend £24MStewart DowningFabian DelphHabib BeyeStephen WarnockJames CollinsRichard Dunne10/11 Spent £32.2M Net Spend £4.7M Average League Spend £29.5MStephen IrelandDarren BentJean Makoun11/12 Spent £17.25M Net Spend £-22.75M Average League Spend £27.25MShay GivenCharles N'ZogbiaAlan HuttonEnda Stevens12/13 Spent £25.7M Net Spend £23.7M Average League Spend £30.5MBrett HolmanKarim El AhmadiMatthew LowtonBrad GuzanRon VlaarJoseph BennettJordan BoweryAshley WestwoodChristian BentekeYacouba Sylla13/14 Spent £18.5M Net Spend £16.5M Average League Spend £38MAntonio LunaNicklas HeleniusAleksanar TonevLeandro BacunaLibor KozakJed Steer14/15 Spent £9.9M Net Spend £8.95M Average League Spend £48.25MCarlos SanchezPhillipe SenderosJoe ColeKieran RichardsonAly CissokhoCarles Gil15/16 Spent £52.5M Net Spend £7.25M Average League Spend £52.25MJordan AyewJordan AmaviJordan VeretoutAdama TraoreIdrissa GueyeRudy GestedeScott SinclairJoleon LescottJose CrespoMark BunnMicah RichardsObviously looking at our spending in the MON era you can see that we spent big money in a couple of windows, but the quality was largely average and when we sold Barry, Young, Milner and Downing we had very little left. Benteke and Delph were the last truly quality players we had and we haven't replaced them. Ever since MON when we have spent big sums it has been in keeping with the average amounts in the league, but while we are in a weak position. This summers spending felt decent at the time, but its the previous couple of seasons which have truly fucked us over.The writings been on the wall for a long time I think.