Quote from: ChicagoLion on December 17, 2015, 02:39:30 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on December 17, 2015, 06:51:49 AMQuote from: ChicagoLion on December 17, 2015, 04:46:31 AMJust had a drink with a Cleveland Browns supporter, he described Randy, he just does not care, was not bothered if they won or lost, liked owning the Browns but could not be bothered to get involved in running them, just wanted some one else to do all that, now he is doing what he did to us to Villa.did you ask him about all of the owners before and after Randy? And how involved is the owner of the Chicago Bears for example? Are maybe you think Randy should be more like Jerry Jones or Arthur Blank and show up on the sidelines during games completely undermining the position of the head coach.More defenceAnswer the question. If your Cleveland Browns supporting mate is so well versed in the operational ability of Randy Lerner he should be able to break down his predecessors and successors to objectively.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on December 17, 2015, 06:51:49 AMQuote from: ChicagoLion on December 17, 2015, 04:46:31 AMJust had a drink with a Cleveland Browns supporter, he described Randy, he just does not care, was not bothered if they won or lost, liked owning the Browns but could not be bothered to get involved in running them, just wanted some one else to do all that, now he is doing what he did to us to Villa.did you ask him about all of the owners before and after Randy? And how involved is the owner of the Chicago Bears for example? Are maybe you think Randy should be more like Jerry Jones or Arthur Blank and show up on the sidelines during games completely undermining the position of the head coach.More defence
Quote from: ChicagoLion on December 17, 2015, 04:46:31 AMJust had a drink with a Cleveland Browns supporter, he described Randy, he just does not care, was not bothered if they won or lost, liked owning the Browns but could not be bothered to get involved in running them, just wanted some one else to do all that, now he is doing what he did to us to Villa.did you ask him about all of the owners before and after Randy? And how involved is the owner of the Chicago Bears for example? Are maybe you think Randy should be more like Jerry Jones or Arthur Blank and show up on the sidelines during games completely undermining the position of the head coach.
Just had a drink with a Cleveland Browns supporter, he described Randy, he just does not care, was not bothered if they won or lost, liked owning the Browns but could not be bothered to get involved in running them, just wanted some one else to do all that, now he is doing what he did to us to Villa.
I am not an expert on American football and my mate is not here to ask questions, but my point stands that there is a willingness for some people to rush to Lerners defence by attacking posts that are critical of him.
Lerner was shit at the Browns and shit at the Villa. That's about right isn't it?
Where have I actually defended Lerner? I am just asking you to put his ownership of the Browns into some context. Which you are avoiding.
I must have missed the posts where anyone was saying he was a success at either. Just pointing out that your Cleveland mate missed out the bits about there being no Cleveland team before the Lerner family, and since Randy sold them they've been last every year.
Maybe he preferred it before the Lerner family appeared when the Browns were moved to Baltimore and there wasn't even a team in Cleveland for a few years in the 90s?Like TV, rather than defending Lerner just putting the Browns stuff into context.
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