Randy Lerner

[dave.woodhall]

The thing that has always boiled my piss with Lerner was the absence of such a structure when he first took over.  It was a golden opportunity to modernise the club from Doug's personal fiefdom to something relevant for the 21st century. Instead we made matters worse by turning it into MON's personal fiefdom instead and have wasted 9 years and the best part of £300M to go backwards, which to be fair to Randy takes a special kind of talent.

If Doug really did appoint MON on Randy's behalf then I'm afraid that's just another reason to dislike him too.He was a typical Doug playing to the galleries type of appointment, with the added benefit that he wouldn't have to foot the bill.  Imagine what a proper manager could have achieved with the money he spent.

I agree with the first paragraph, although when he first took over he did seem to have, marketing-wise at least, the sort of team we'd dreamt of under Doug. Where they all vanished to is a mystery of Midsomer proportions.

And although in hindsight O'Neill was the wrong manager to give a blank chequebook to, at the time he was the massive, overwhelming favourite for the job. Nobody could have inspired such optimism as he did.   

[Toronto Villa]

If we were 6th no one would give a fuck if Randy was ever at VP or BH or never turned up. Where Randy physically is isn't the problem.

Yep. Apparently, and don't quote me on this, money can be sent electronically these days. You don't have to be in the room to sign a cheque. And you can even see someone on your phone when are talking to them. Whatever will these kids come out with next?

[Jon Crofts]

Bob Bradley has been making noises about fancying a job in England, shudder the thought!!!

I initially read that as Boo Radley and still momentarily thought he might be an improvement.

Honey Boo Boo would be an improvement.

[sirlordbaltimore]

And although in hindsight O'Neill was the wrong manager to give a blank chequebook to, at the time he was the massive, overwhelming favourite for the job. Nobody could have inspired such optimism as he did.

This. He was a HUGE appointment at the time and lifted the whole club. I'm not sure a Moyes type would be able to have such an effect this time should we try for him

[Tony Erdington]

The thing that has always boiled my piss with Lerner was the absence of such a structure when he first took over.  It was a golden opportunity to modernise the club from Doug's personal fiefdom to something relevant for the 21st century. Instead we made matters worse by turning it into MON's personal fiefdom instead and have wasted 9 years and the best part of £300M to go backwards, which to be fair to Randy takes a special kind of talent.

If Doug really did appoint MON on Randy's behalf then I'm afraid that's just another reason to dislike him too.He was a typical Doug playing to the galleries type of appointment, with the added benefit that he wouldn't have to foot the bill.  Imagine what a proper manager could have achieved with the money he spent.

I agree with the first paragraph, although when he first took over he did seem to have, marketing-wise at least, the sort of team we'd dreamt of under Doug. Where they all vanished to is a mystery of Midsomer proportions.

And although in hindsight O'Neill was the wrong manager to give a blank chequebook to, at the time he was the massive, overwhelming favourite for the job. Nobody could have inspired such optimism as he did.

I think mo'n got the benefit of the honey moon period he did, was two fold, he came in after a terrible manager do'l and a naive owner, who thought he just had to throw money at it, watch the interest come back in.

theres a lot of people to be blamed for the mess where in now, that nice old gentleman Doug certainly has a share of the blame. he made enough out of the club.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Bob Bradley has been making noises about fancying a job in England, shudder the thought!!!

I initially read that as Boo Radley and still momentarily thought he might be an improvement.

I'd get Calpurnia in - she'd sort Westwood's shite corners out!

[pauliewalnuts]

Different people will see it different ways, but for me, the fact he wasn't turning up at games any more was not about the fact that he needed to be here day to day (although
maybe that would be a valid point in terms of how our organisation was set up, I don't know).

For me it was more about seeing how his attachment to the club had changed, as he went from being at loads of matches to being at none.

As it turned out, his attachment had changed, as he said he wanted to sell.

With the set up he has now, I don't really care if he is here or there, it should be able to run day to day without his constant involvement. He said, for example, that he was going to appoint a chairman. That's how confident he was of not neeing to be here.

[Toronto Villa]

And although in hindsight O'Neill was the wrong manager to give a blank chequebook to, at the time he was the massive, overwhelming favourite for the job. Nobody could have inspired such optimism as he did.

This. He was a HUGE appointment at the time and lifted the whole club. I'm not sure a Moyes type would be able to have such an effect this time should we try for him

A lift to the fans would anyone we appoint that has had any measure of success as a manager in the game and ultimate comes across as competent and intelligent. A lift to the players would be a manager who knew what he was doing and gives clear well thought through instruction at training and during games. They don't need someone who runs up and down the touch line. They need someone who is honest, and they can trust to make them better.

[sirlordbaltimore]

A lift to the fans would anyone we appoint that has had any measure of success as a manager in the game and ultimate comes across as competent and intelligent. A lift to the players would be a manager who knew what he was doing and gives clear well thought through instruction at training and during games. They don't need someone who runs up and down the touch line. They need someone who is honest, and they can trust to make them better.

True, but they are few and far between. Not sure why we don't aim higher and go after someone doing a good job somewhere else the job

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

Re-energised the club when he cam in. Gave us money and a manager that 99% of other clubs would've wanted at the time. He gave MON a good chance to achieve top 4, but it didnt quite work out.

Other than McLeish, don't think his appointments were met with a great deal of opposition from people.

Can he be expected to keep chucking in his money all the time?

However, something clearly needs to change, because manager after manager it's been shit for years.

Someone new to come in would be great and see if we can get it back to how it was when he first took charge of us.

The club, as a whole, need a fresh start.

[silhillvilla]

His prescence is important . Even if he can't make all the games . Equally all football clubs are for sale at any one time , buyers make offers on something they fancy. It isn't like selling a semi in Erdington . Why he needed to announce it was for sale and he'd lost all interest was another rash and ill thought through idea.

[Clampy]

His prescence is important . Even if he can't make all the games . Equally all football clubs are for sale at any one time , buyers make offers on something they fancy. It isn't like selling a semi in Erdington . Why he needed to announce it was for sale and he'd lost all interest was another rash and ill thought through idea.

Because there was a lot of speculation at the time. If he had said nothing, he would have been criticisied for it.

[saunders_heroes]

A lift to the fans would anyone we appoint that has had any measure of success as a manager in the game and ultimate comes across as competent and intelligent. A lift to the players would be a manager who knew what he was doing and gives clear well thought through instruction at training and during games. They don't need someone who runs up and down the touch line. They need someone who is honest, and they can trust to make them better.

True, but they are few and far between. Not sure why we don't aim higher and go after someone doing a good job somewhere else the job

i

Good managers demand decent transfer/wages budget. You really think the chairman's going to provide that?
That's the worry I have if/when we sack Sherwood.

[Clark W Griswold]

A lift to the fans would anyone we appoint that has had any measure of success as a manager in the game and ultimate comes across as competent and intelligent. A lift to the players would be a manager who knew what he was doing and gives clear well thought through instruction at training and during games. They don't need someone who runs up and down the touch line. They need someone who is honest, and they can trust to make them better.

True, but they are few and far between. Not sure why we don't aim higher and go after someone doing a good job somewhere else the job

i

Good managers demand decent transfer/wages budget. You really think the chairman's going to provide that?
That's the worry I have if/when we sack Sherwood.

Moyes has already lodged his interest of the papers are to be believed, so I wouldn't worry too much. Unless you don't rate Moyes I suppose ;-)

[silhillvilla]

His prescence is important . Even if he can't make all the games . Equally all football clubs are for sale at any one time , buyers make offers on something they fancy. It isn't like selling a semi in Erdington . Why he needed to announce it was for sale and he'd lost all interest was another rash and ill thought through idea.

Because there was a lot of speculation at the time. If he had said nothing, he would have been criticisied for it.

Think possibly the news got out and therefore he had to go public before the papers did .