Randy Lerner

[ClaretAndBlueBlood]

So he should figuratively live in the city as well?

He used to (or just outside) so yes.

Not being funny, but is English your first language (or even second.)

How the fuck do you figuratively live somewhere?

I literally just died laughing.

when's the funeral?

[VILLA MOLE]

So he should figuratively live in the city as well?

He used to (or just outside) so yes.

Not being funny, but is English your first language (or even second.)

How the fuck do you figuratively live somewhere?

I literally just died laughing.

when's the funeral?

If you have model figures of yourself in a house that is not yours , you figuratively live there.. easy 

[pauliewalnuts]

So he should figuratively live in the city as well?

He used to (or just outside) so yes.

Not being funny, but is English your first language (or even second.)

How the fuck do you figuratively live somewhere?

I literally just died laughing.

I've told you a million times, do not exaggerate! /young_ones

[curiousorange]

So he should figuratively live in the city as well?

He used to (or just outside) so yes.

Not being funny, but is English your first language (or even second.)

How the fuck do you figuratively live somewhere?

I literally just died laughing.

I've told you a million times, do not exaggerate! /young_ones

The same thing's happened to me funfty times.

[TimTheVillain]

Some sensible comments, Paulie.   

However, sometimes an organisation has a stench about it that tinkering with the management structure will only go so far towards curing.  Sometimes you need to lop the head off and start afresh. 

Oh, I agree, but the problem with the Lerner must go thing (which I'd like to see happen) is that it's not some sort of act of wanting to go that will make him go, it's not like he's a politician clinging to office.

He owns the club, he can no more magic up a new owner than we can. Look at the other clubs currently on the market - how long has it been since someone bought a PL club?

I'm sure he wants out as much as we want him out.

True Paulie, but he has to be more than realistic with his price. No-one makes money out of football clubs, so he really ought to sell at around £100 mill rather than the often published £150 mill in order to get some cash in the bank for himself  -- and the club owned by a new, hopefully more moneyed and committed owner. One who can see us to a level that Lerner just can't and never will.

[cheltenhamlion]

Just look at those numbers though. Would you just say fuck it to 50 million quid?

[Ian.]

You wouldn't drop that same percentage if you was selling a property you own, would you?

[Malandro]

Just look at those numbers though. Would you just say fuck it to 50 million quid?

Randy probably could have done it without thinking before he bought a football club.
Good to know billionaires can get their fingers burnt.

[aj2k77]

I'd say it's a bit different when you have a net worth of a billion, compared to a net worth of bugger all and the only sizeable asset you have is that house which you need maximum value from for your next home.

[TopDeck113]

If it was a hard-nosed, self made billionaire we were talking about, I'd agree.  But this is Randy, spoilt little rich kid who knows the value of nothing.

[Diablo]

I think Lerner is an American Cult leader who is trying to create a mass suicide pact with us as his victims.

[Hookeysmith]

Must admit I am getting fed up with the Lerner bashing

He has us up for sale - no one wants us
He has spent god knows how many millions, specially in the early years, to improve us on and off the pitch until it started to go west
Calls to get over here to sort it out - would be followed by "Fuck off Lerner"

What is he meant to do? Give us away just to pacify the fans baying for blood
The one big thing I blame him for was trusting a snake like MON with all the investment money

Of course he is naïve and inexperienced and he has painfully learned a great deal during his reign but some of the abuse he is a getting is way over the top
Imagine if it was your £250 million investment up for sale - would you drop 50- 100 million off the price to pacify supporters thirst for change
There has to be a buyer
We need to be careful what we wish for sometimes

[OzVilla]

Regarding the Lerner bashing, I agree that Lerner means well, I'm sure he wants success as much as anybody and there's no doubt owning the Villa has severely dented his fortune. He's also done some really great initiatives off the pitch that made me proud to support this great club.

Trouble is though that judgement is ultimately reserved for performance on the pitch and quite frankly that side, which is the whole point of the club, has been dreadful, potentially calamitous if we do end up relegated.  And he's had form, look at the Browns.

I wish he'd never bought us and to be fair he probably feels the same way.  Only the mega billionaires bother buying clubs now, hence we can't find a buyer after 18 months.

[dave.woodhall]

Rearss te Lerner bashing, I agree that Lerner means well, I'm sure he wants success as much as anybody and there's no doubt owning the Villa has severely dented his fortune. He's also done some really great initiatives off the pitch that made me proud to support this great club.

Trouble is though that judgement is ultimately reserved for performance on the pitch and quite frankly that side, which is the whole point of the club, has been dreadful, potentially calamitous if we do end up relegated.  And he's had form, look at the Browns.

I wish he'd never bought us and to be fair he probably feels the same way.

Which begs the question - if you, or anyone else, wished he hadn't bought us, then who of all the potential buyers at the time would you have preferred? LLVF Mike Neville? The Comers? Ray Ranson? Nicholas Padfield? The fact is that even then, pre-Manchester City, pre-crash, pre-Chinese stock market collapse, there was still a limited field of potential owners and Randy was the best of a bad bunch.   

[Chico Hamilton III]

Must admit I am getting fed up with the Lerner bashing

He has us up for sale - no one wants us
He has spent god knows how many millions, specially in the early years, to improve us on and off the pitch until it started to go west
Calls to get over here to sort it out - would be followed by "Fuck off Lerner"

What is he meant to do? Give us away just to pacify the fans baying for blood
The one big thing I blame him for was trusting a snake like MON with all the investment money

Of course he is naïve and inexperienced and he has painfully learned a great deal during his reign but some of the abuse he is a getting is way over the top
Imagine if it was your £250 million investment up for sale - would you drop 50- 100 million off the price to pacify supporters thirst for change
There has to be a buyer
We need to be careful what we wish for sometimes

What about his lack of communication? he comes across as someone who really doesn't give a shit anymore ( which is just about the worst crime any owner could commit in football). I don't expect him to be hawking himself to the press every day like Sullivan and Gold and I don't mean Krulak piping up with his bullshit. We must be the only organisation I can think of that has absolutely no comms strategy. Is it any wonder that we don't trust a bloke who we haven't heard from for a couple of years now? He makes the "elusive" Bhati brothers look like media whores. Brought it all on himself, I'm afraid