Moyes?

[Rudy Can't Fail]

It wouldn't surprise me if they sack him immediately after the Swansea game, win, lose or draw. The three points are the most important thing right now so why disrupt the week where we stand our most likely chance of actually winning a game.

[PeterWithesShin]

It's Catch 22, I think. Any manager good enough to save us won't want to come, why should they?

Premier League, prestigious club, good fan base, potentially a squad that should be a few places higher. Ego.

That's why I'd take the job! But the risk of relegation may be too great for a manager who isn't a) a chancer or newby with little to lose (Tim Sherwood, Rowlett) or b) an uninspiring clogger (Mark Hughes, Tony Pulis et al) and we really need one who's several degrees better than either of those.

When did Advocaat take over Sunderland last season? March was it? With them in a far more desperate situation than we find ourselves in now (or even than we found ourselves when we fired Lambert last season).

Happy to take a short-term contract with a big bonus if he kept them up. Which he went and seemed to do so with a minimum of fuss.

I thought they were 17th when he took over? We are 19th, and were 18th when Sherwood arrived. They were crap and struggling but not sure they were in a far more desperate situation than we were when Sherwood arrived, or we are now.

[Toronto Villa]

It wouldn't surprise me if they sack him immediately after the Swansea game, win, lose or draw. The three points are the most important thing right now so why disrupt the week where we stand our most likely chance of actually winning a game.

That might be the case. The dye is cast and it might just be that they are working on the replacement and details regarding his departure before making it official. Sherwood is...

[VILLA MOLE]

It wouldn't surprise me if they sack him immediately after the Swansea game, win, lose or draw. The three points are the most important thing right now so why disrupt the week where we stand our most likely chance of actually winning a game.

That might be the case. The dye is cast and it might just be that they are working on the replacement and details regarding his departure before making it official. Sherwood is...

Sean Penn ??

[bob]

It's Catch 22, I think. Any manager good enough to save us won't want to come, why should they?

Premier League, prestigious club, good fan base, potentially a squad that should be a few places higher. Ego.

That's why I'd take the job! But the risk of relegation may be too great for a manager who isn't a) a chancer or newby with little to lose (Tim Sherwood, Rowlett) or b) an uninspiring clogger (Mark Hughes, Tony Pulis et al) and we really need one who's several degrees better than either of those.

When did Advocaat take over Sunderland last season? March was it? With them in a far more desperate situation than we find ourselves in now (or even than we found ourselves when we fired Lambert last season).

Happy to take a short-term contract with a big bonus if he kept them up. Which he went and seemed to do so with a minimum of fuss.

I thought they were 17th when he took over? We are 19th, and were 18th when Sherwood arrived. They were crap and struggling but not sure they were in a far more desperate situation than we were when Sherwood arrived, or we are now.

They looked dead and buried, even we hammered them.

Advocaat performed a miracle keeping themup.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Klopp, Jose et al are in a different league to some of names being forwarded here.

Probably, but not by a million miles. Lucien Favre finished higher than Klopp's Dortmund last season on a fraction of the budget that Dortmund have. He's available and has a very solid track record across his fifteen years of football management with very few blips.

A guaranteed success with us? Obviously not. More of a risk than sticking with somebody who literally has nothing to back up why he should be managing a Premier League football team? I think not.

Flavor Favre could well be on the radar of Augsburg by the weekend according to a few reports in Germany. They finished 5th last season but are now bottom of the league after 9 games. Favre is everything Sherwood isn't, that's for sure.

[PeterWithesShin]

So did we when Sherwood took over. We were both in similar 'form' as well. Now we're 4 points from safety already and have lost 7 out of 8. Both us and them were shit and in trouble, I just don't see how theirs were far more serious than ours was, and is. We had/have more games to save ourselves, but at least they were outside the bottom 3 at the time.

[Dave]

It's Catch 22, I think. Any manager good enough to save us won't want to come, why should they?

Premier League, prestigious club, good fan base, potentially a squad that should be a few places higher. Ego.

That's why I'd take the job! But the risk of relegation may be too great for a manager who isn't a) a chancer or newby with little to lose (Tim Sherwood, Rowlett) or b) an uninspiring clogger (Mark Hughes, Tony Pulis et al) and we really need one who's several degrees better than either of those.

When did Advocaat take over Sunderland last season? March was it? With them in a far more desperate situation than we find ourselves in now (or even than we found ourselves when we fired Lambert last season).

Happy to take a short-term contract with a big bonus if he kept them up. Which he went and seemed to do so with a minimum of fuss.

I thought they were 17th when he took over? We are 19th, and were 18th when Sherwood arrived. They were crap and struggling but not sure they were in a far more desperate situation than we were when Sherwood arrived, or we are now.

Yeah, that's fair.

I feel though that in the context of "is a decent manager going to want to come in if the situation looks bad", I would say that 19th with three quarters of the season left would be preferable for that incoming manager than 17th with eight games or so left.

Although I think that the overriding point in both cases is that an out-of-work manager is probably going to be happy to go to you regardless of how dire things look as long as he is paid enough for it.

[Dave]

On Moyes and his immediate future, Sid Lowe (who seems to know as much as anybody English-speaking about this sort of thing) says that the Real Sociedad President is still fully behind Moyes as he was his pick to come in the first place. So he's a bit entrenched in his position.

The rest of the board who weren't particularly in favour to him coming in to start with are rather keen to see him leave.

[Stirchley Villain]

We're in a death spiral. As much as I'd like him to come Moyes would be mad to take us on. The only thing that might work would be to appoint Moyes and guarantee that even if we went down he'd be given proper resources to get us back up and to draw up a new blue print. I can't see the current management team thinking that far ahead though.

[cdward]

Andre Villas Boas - finished champions and runners up the last 2 seasons, and has said he wants out of Zenit at the end of the season. PL experience, fluent English speaker. Young, ambitious, yep there's no chance he will come to us.
Great fit though Aston Villas Boas.

[b23]

It wouldn't surprise me if they sack him immediately after the Swansea game, win, lose or draw. The three points are the most important thing right now so why disrupt the week where we stand our most likely chance of actually winning a game.

That might be the case. The dye is cast and it might just be that they are working on the replacement and details regarding his departure before making it official. Sherwood is...

Sean Penn ??

Sigourney Weaver even ?

[Toronto Villa]

It wouldn't surprise me if they sack him immediately after the Swansea game, win, lose or draw. The three points are the most important thing right now so why disrupt the week where we stand our most likely chance of actually winning a game.

That might be the case. The dye is cast and it might just be that they are working on the replacement and details regarding his departure before making it official. Sherwood is...

Sean Penn ??

Sigourney Weaver even ?

Haha maybe even Susan Sarandon

[Phil from the upper holte]

Swansea aren't doing that great, crap at home they haven't won since Man United I think. I'd avoid him personally

[old man villa fan]

We need experience.

An experienced coach who can organise players into playing different systems and see when the opposition are changing their system and react to it straight away.

An experienced manager who can handle players' egos and get respect, so that the players will work for the manager.

For me, it does not matter whether that person has PL experience or not.  There is more chance of getting a better coach from overseas.  Actually, thinking about it, that is almost a cast iron certainty.  PL experience will possibly get a manager that can handle the egos of British players and foreign players that have been here long term.  Respect will initially come from reputation and then earned by his ability in the job.

For me, this rules out the likes of Monk, Pearson etc. who have had some short term success.  Any choice will be a gamble, so reduce the risk by paying top dollar and selling the club to a top manager.