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Re: Moyes?
« Reply #285 on: October 20, 2015, 11:34:57 AM »
I am staggered given his media utterings that her is still in employment at the moment.

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Re: Moyes?
« Reply #286 on: October 20, 2015, 11:38:48 AM »
I am staggered given his media utterings that her is still in employment at the moment.


If I was clever enough I'd post the image. http://www.theclash.com/gb/music/albums/give-em-enough-rope

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Re: Moyes?
« Reply #287 on: October 20, 2015, 11:50:01 AM »
It's Catch 22, I think. Any manager good enough to save us won't want to come, why should they?

Premier League, prestigious club, good fan base, potentially a squad that should be a few places higher. Ego.

That's why I'd take the job! But the risk of relegation may be too great for a manager who isn't a) a chancer or newby with little to lose (Tim Sherwood, Rowlett) or b) an uninspiring clogger (Mark Hughes, Tony Pulis et al) and we really need one who's several degrees better than either of those.

Mark Hughes an uninspiring clogger? I doubt if you will get many backers for that point of view.

Maybe not clogger... But he doesn't inspire me, despite his relative success at Stoke.

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Re: Moyes?
« Reply #288 on: October 20, 2015, 12:14:02 PM »
We're a quarter of the way into the season. Any manager who believes in themselves should think that we're hardly the biggest mess in the world to sort out, however bad it seems.

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Re: Moyes?
« Reply #289 on: October 20, 2015, 12:19:28 PM »
I am staggered given his media utterings that her is still in employment at the moment.


If I was clever enough I'd post the image.

Was that what you were trying for?

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Re: Moyes?
« Reply #290 on: October 20, 2015, 12:23:26 PM »
It's Catch 22, I think. Any manager good enough to save us won't want to come, why should they?

Premier League, prestigious club, good fan base, potentially a squad that should be a few places higher. Ego.

That's why I'd take the job! But the risk of relegation may be too great for a manager who isn't a) a chancer or newby with little to lose (Tim Sherwood, Rowlett) or b) an uninspiring clogger (Mark Hughes, Tony Pulis et al) and we really need one who's several degrees better than either of those.


When did Advocaat take over Sunderland last season? March was it? With them in a far more desperate situation than we find ourselves in now (or even than we found ourselves when we fired Lambert last season).

Happy to take a short-term contract with a big bonus if he kept them up. Which he went and seemed to do so with a minimum of fuss.

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Re: Moyes?
« Reply #291 on: October 20, 2015, 12:25:07 PM »
I am staggered given his media utterings that her is still in employment at the moment.


If I was clever enough I'd post the image.

Was that what you were trying for?

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Re: Moyes?
« Reply #292 on: October 20, 2015, 12:25:41 PM »
I am staggered given his media utterings that her is still in employment at the moment.


If I was clever enough I'd post the image.

Was that what you were trying for?

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« Reply #293 on: October 20, 2015, 12:25:49 PM »
Just showing off!

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Re: Moyes?
« Reply #294 on: October 20, 2015, 12:51:16 PM »
I am staggered given his media utterings that her is still in employment at the moment.


Me too and it's obvious he's got at least another game sadly.

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« Reply #295 on: October 20, 2015, 01:14:02 PM »
Monk would be a disaster, he's had success at Swansea due to walking into an already set up system that he knows well, our board probably just see him doing a good job there and think its as simple as that.
If we wanted to go down the Monk route in a couple of years then Bielsa would be ideal now but then have we got the time in our current position to attempt to revolutionize the club? This should have been thought about before appointing Sherwood, who was the right man last season to give us the short term confidence needed to stay up, what he wasn't though was the man to give a fucking 4 year contract too, if the board would have given him a contract till the end of the season then he'd of left us with some success on his CV and we'd be forever greatful to him and then in a good place to appoint a manger like Bielsa with the future in mind to then appoint managers such as Rogers/ Monk who can play to that style, unfortunately our board make decisions on a whim and now were in the position of needing another quick fix instead of putting together a plan for the future.

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Re: Moyes?
« Reply #296 on: October 20, 2015, 01:36:10 PM »
Favre is a great call, again not someone I'd expect our dimwits to have heard of though. It'll be Pearson or we'll pay a few million for a Dyche.

That's exactly what will happen.

We'll have a long protracted saga of trying to appoint Dyche. He wont be able to bring is own staff due to contractual issues, and it will cost us a world record in compo because Fox was found to have 'Netlix 'n chilled' with Dyche whilst he was still Burnley boss.

Burnley will subsequently appoint Carlo Ancelotti to replace him.

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« Reply #297 on: October 20, 2015, 02:07:06 PM »
this is all total supposition though ; there isn't one iota of evidence to suggest Tim is going anywhere. I honestly believe they have no appetite to fire and hire again this season unless it's become Stevie Wonder obvious that we really are in the shit.  Much as I don't think now he is fit for purpose I can't see any action until  Christmas.

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« Reply #298 on: October 20, 2015, 02:23:35 PM »
this is all total supposition though ; there isn't one iota of evidence to suggest Tim is going anywhere. I honestly believe they have no appetite to fire and hire again this season unless it's become Stevie Wonder obvious that we really are in the shit.  Much as I don't think now he is fit for purpose I can't see any action until  Christmas.

Which is exactly what people were saying until the day McLeish got fired and exactly what people were saying about Lambert last season.  Our board are generally very patient with people but they have acted and so far every time it has been soon enough for us to not go down despite repeated cries of us being doomed for most of the season.

I suspect they have some targets in mind and when it's clear those won't be met he'll be on his bike, just because we don't know what they are we shouldn't assume they can't exist.

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Re: Moyes?
« Reply #299 on: October 20, 2015, 02:27:37 PM »
this is all total supposition though ; there isn't one iota of evidence to suggest Tim is going anywhere. I honestly believe they have no appetite to fire and hire again this season unless it's become Stevie Wonder obvious that we really are in the shit.  Much as I don't think now he is fit for purpose I can't see any action until  Christmas.

There is no way they will risk going down, so Sherwood is hanging on by a thread. I think with the latest blasts coming out from Collymore and especially in his support of Sherwood, that for me is the tell tale signs that it will all end very soon.

 


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